Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:51 pm
Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:45 pm
Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:34 pm
Originally posted by BladeRunner
In game name, approximate date and time of ban, name
of the ECGN public server you were playing on.
We need that information before we can proceed.
Thanks
BladeRunner
Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:27 pm
Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:31 pm
Originally posted by Prong2005
Almost 45 minutes later I started to get switched to the other team randomly. I thought the recent patches fixed this issue, so I dealt with it and waited to get back, only to be switched again and again. Needless to say, it's hard to be a squad leader when you are constantly switched to the other side.
Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:35 am
Originally posted by Chacal
Yes, that's the procedure. It can take a few days before the admin logs in here and sees this message.
Team switch is there for a reason: it means the teams are unbalanced, either in numbers or in skills. Please stay on the team you are put on. Too bad if it breaks up your team.
This may have no relation to your ban though.
Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:19 am
Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:53 am
Originally posted by Chacal
It's possible you were switched on purpose. We do that at times. Stay on the team you were switched to.
Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:13 pm
Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:25 pm
Originally posted by Chacal
I understand your concern, but I think you're confused about our purpose.
ECGN is not a clan, it's a game server rental business. We run public servers on which a player community has developped over the years, but they are PUBLIC servers, not clan servers.
Originally posted by Chacal
We want to ensure an enjoyable playing experience for the general public. The most important requirements for this is that the teams must be kept balanced (1).
For this reason, ECGN players, like all players, must spread evenly between the two teams. This includes visiting clans and specialized squads such as yours, unless of course the server is used for a scheduled private match.
Originally posted by Chacal
Players are often reminded to balance teams. When this doesn't work, admins will switch players. Those with similar tags (ECGN or otherwise) will be especially targeted because they have the most impact on team balance. Switching back means you're disobeying an admin.
No ECGN admin does that for personal or tactical advantage, as you seem to imply.
Originally posted by Chacal
Now, I understand that this doesn't fit with your usual playing mode. You seem to be very specialized as a BH squad. You even sign your posts as a BH pilot. You mention competiton and effectiveness as motivators.
Sorry, but if that's the case I'm not sure the public ECGN #1 server is the right place for you. If you join our server and switch teams in order to be together, you're breaking a rule already.
Originally posted by Chacal
Also, you may not know this but the Blackhawk has been a touchy topic here since BF2 came out. Until a few months ago we had a specific rule against BH whoring, this rule has been suspended after the first patch but it wasn't an unanimous decision. If you spend all your time in a BH you won't get much respect from most of our regs as it is still widely considered point whoring.
Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:02 pm
Originally posted by Prong2005
Yes, I am very confused now. So if ECGN members are not team mates (aka a clan) then who are they? Employees that play on the servers and police them? Or are they also community members that have purchased slots on the specific server they are playing on for a monthly fee?
Battlefield 2 is a squad based game of tactical warfare. Breaking up squads for the purpose of providing an enjoyable experience for others seems a bit rash don't you think? In fact, it's counterproductive to the end result, winning the round?
So instead of balancing the teams by moving individual players that do not belong to a team to the other side, ECGN will target squad leaders and / or currently established teams with clan tags? What possible value does this add to a game designed for squad based combat? What message do you think this sends to visitors and possible first time customers?
I can understand your point about switching teams and unbalancing the numbers per side, and I can respect that. What I don't understand is why players aren't allowed to play as a team in a squad based game, especially if they waited to be in that squad to play as a team.
Is ECGN the right place for me? Considering the path this conversation has taken, maybe it isn't. In so many words, you have devalued me as a future customer either as a server operator or a monthly subscriber for a slot on one of the public servers.
I am well aware of what used to happen with the Blackhawks prior to the patch, and I am pleased they fixed it. What saddens me is the other whoreing going on with jets and attack helicopters that consistantly straife spawn points on carriers and uncappable flags.
What about the lone wolf who spends an entire round in a jet, never getting shot down once? I guess he is allowed because he is not affiliated with a team, and he is certainly not flying a Blackhawk.
You seem to think that we are some sort of professional clan or something. I do have a few regular players that I keep in touch with, but most of the time, the crew I fly with is assembled from the very server I happen to be playing on at the moment.
When I was banned from your server, four of the six members onboard the Blackhawk was players from your server.
Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:29 pm
Originally posted by Prong2005
Yes, I am very confused now. So if ECGN members are not team mates (aka a clan) then who are they? Employees that play on the servers and police them? Or are they also community members that have purchased slots on the specific server they are playing on for a monthly fee?
Originally posted by Prong2005
Battlefield 2 is a squad based game of tactical warfare. Breaking up squads for the purpose of providing an enjoyable experience for others seems a bit rash don't you think? In fact, it's counterproductive to the end result, winning the round?
Originally posted by Prong2005
So instead of balancing the teams by moving individual players that do not belong to a team to the other side, ECGN will target squad leaders and / or currently established teams with clan tags? What possible value does this add to a game designed for squad based combat? What message do you think this sends to visitors and possible first time customers?
Originally posted by Prong2005
I can understand your point about switching teams and unbalancing the numbers per side, and I can respect that. What I don't understand is why players aren't allowed to play as a team in a squad based game, especially if they waited to be in that squad to play as a team.
Originally posted by Prong2005
Is ECGN the right place for me? Considering the path this conversation has taken, maybe it isn't. In so many words, you have devalued me as a future customer either as a server operator or a monthly subscriber for a slot on one of the public servers.
Originally posted by Prong2005
I am well aware of what used to happen with the Blackhawks prior to the patch, and I am pleased they fixed it. What saddens me is the other whoreing going on with jets and attack helicopters that consistantly straife spawn points on carriers and uncappable flags.
What about the lone wolf who spends an entire round in a jet, never getting shot down once? I guess he is allowed because he is not affiliated with a team, and he is certainly not flying a Blackhawk.
Originally posted by Prong2005
You seem to think that we are some sort of professional clan or something. I do have a few regular players that I keep in touch with, but most of the time, the crew I fly with is assembled from the very server I happen to be playing on at the moment. When I was banned from your server, four of the six members onboard the Blackhawk was players from your server.
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