Pushing while your running!
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by aphid » Sun Feb 02, 2003 11:46 pm
I know it was you and it was probably a mistake on your part. However, for the the vast majority of the others who do this, it is not a mistake. Also, my push did not save me because I did not have it on. Take a look at my first post and you'll see that I put /+salute on permanently after that.
I am glad I took the high road and did not class everyone who uses a +salute as rude and selfish. I would have just been asking for an argument then.
I am glad I took the high road and did not class everyone who uses a +salute as rude and selfish. I would have just been asking for an argument then.
- iceman41
by iceman41 » Mon Feb 03, 2003 12:59 pm
Whatever....., I called out NO ONE specifically (this is a BIG difference). Just made a generalization which I still stand by. Seems to me if enough people complained about something, that maybe if those with auto push on cared about others they then would take it off..... when they don't, well by definition I would say that's a pretty good example of selfishness. Shows they care about nothing but their own enjoyment."Auto Push is good for me, screw that guy I just pushed on that nade in the ducts"....... sheeesh.
One question..... wouldn't a binded push solve the problem for everyone????, isn't that clearly the fair, logical, and reasonable thing to do???
Keep your damn auto push on......, this horse is dead.
One question..... wouldn't a binded push solve the problem for everyone????, isn't that clearly the fair, logical, and reasonable thing to do???
Keep your damn auto push on......, this horse is dead.
- COL.BUKKAKE
by COL.BUKKAKE » Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:09 pm
Originally posted by iceman41
Keep your damn auto push on......, this horse is dead. [/B]
Horse is dead?.....want talk bout dead horses....I get a tip from this jocky that a certain horse has a good chance of winning. So I head over to the meadowlands to bet him, 10-1 great odds (this is trotters) anyway the race starts, I'm talkin this horse is barely movin, all the other horses hit the 3 qtr pole and mine is still at the 1st......As I sit and watch all the other horses hit the finish line, the dog I bet just hits 3 qtr pole. Huffin and puffin he finally reaches the finish line, dead last by 50 lengths(no lie), just as he crosses the horse drops, few vets and trainer run out, they wave for something, out comes the glue wagon. They chain this pigs legs and drag it into the truck.........Oh and I kickd that little fuckin jockey's ass the next day:D
by S.S.Lazer » Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:35 pm
Hey i have my auto push on like they said in previous posts autopush out ways the bads. The only time it becomes a pain in the ass is when you die in the ducts, and a medic or person is at your feet and cant get past you. Iam smart enough to turn my back in the ducts so i dont push people forward, i almost always jump on people and on my desention down i use the needle so it almost always works, unlike other people that take like 4x to try and revive you. as far as the dyno i think that was me but whatever i was just trying tohelp, who gives a fuck if you get pushed away you still get the points for it. Unlike other people when someone throws down the dyno first i help them out before i lay mine. unlike 95% of the other people that just do their own. iam always a Engineer untill the job is done then i usally switch to medic.
"Balls," said the queen. If i had 2 I would be the King.
Everyone likes a little ass, but nobody needs a smartass.
Everyone likes a little ass, but nobody needs a smartass.
by S.S.Lazer » Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:38 pm
who cares if you die from a grenade its not like you dont die from enough airstrikes, so its 1 more death. Sorry if i sound selfish but maybe iam sick of peoples stupidity, i know how to use autopush and iam not a dumbass about it in the game.
"Balls," said the queen. If i had 2 I would be the King.
Everyone likes a little ass, but nobody needs a smartass.
Everyone likes a little ass, but nobody needs a smartass.
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by BulletToothTony » Mon Feb 03, 2003 4:52 pm
Going to throw in my 2 cents... (I do NOT use autopush btw)
It seems like the common defense from players who use autopush is something to the effect of, "I'm not one of the problem players, I don't cause any harm with it." While I have a great respect for a number of you who have posted saying you use it and use it responsibly, the fact remains that you probably don't notice the few times you affect your teammates in a negative fashion.
In game, I'm too busy to notice who it is that shoves me, but it happens most every round I play. It seems worse when playing allied, I feel like I'm a pinball in the trenches sometimes and it makes the transition from the stairs to the ladder tricky sometimes as I get shoved up the stairway by people behind me...(which usually ends in my death by airstrike
)
The vents are a commonly mentioned problem area. I've mentioned the stairs by the ladder...here are a few others:
These aren't game critical situations, but they are still annoying as hell:
- The railing on the backstairs. I sometimes sit on the rail next to the flamethrower and provide health or ammo. I've been shoved off the rail and fallen down the stairs countless times by autopush.
- As mentioned, as a medic it can get annoying to get close enough to needle the body. While I am getting used to the fact that I have to jump on them to do it, it isn't always feasible. Most notably, if the body is ABOVE you on a staircase.
- Also as a medic, you go in to revive and just as you activate the needle, a passing player shoves you just far enough out of reach.
Again, none of the above are really critical elements of the game, but they are annoying and can get you killed. This translates into your teammates not having as much fun or getting really frustrated.
#1 use for shove, imho, is to get out the door of the bunker when playing allied. For all the people who say that the "good outweighs the bad" will probably see the above list and figure it's no big deal...I ask those people to turn the situation around. Why do you need to use push SO badly ALL the time? If you think the above are trite concerns, then so are the reasons for using push, especially when it can be bound to a key and used on an "as needed" basis.
One last note, (and this is again totally my opinion as I'll likely get flamed for it) I think it's cheesy to be using autopush to get past the axis as you run to the radio room. I'd rather have my teammates running with me, firing round after round and throwing grenade after grenade, painting the path to the radio room red with the blood of gibbed axis bodies.
-BT
It seems like the common defense from players who use autopush is something to the effect of, "I'm not one of the problem players, I don't cause any harm with it." While I have a great respect for a number of you who have posted saying you use it and use it responsibly, the fact remains that you probably don't notice the few times you affect your teammates in a negative fashion.
In game, I'm too busy to notice who it is that shoves me, but it happens most every round I play. It seems worse when playing allied, I feel like I'm a pinball in the trenches sometimes and it makes the transition from the stairs to the ladder tricky sometimes as I get shoved up the stairway by people behind me...(which usually ends in my death by airstrike
)
The vents are a commonly mentioned problem area. I've mentioned the stairs by the ladder...here are a few others:
These aren't game critical situations, but they are still annoying as hell:
- The railing on the backstairs. I sometimes sit on the rail next to the flamethrower and provide health or ammo. I've been shoved off the rail and fallen down the stairs countless times by autopush.
- As mentioned, as a medic it can get annoying to get close enough to needle the body. While I am getting used to the fact that I have to jump on them to do it, it isn't always feasible. Most notably, if the body is ABOVE you on a staircase.
- Also as a medic, you go in to revive and just as you activate the needle, a passing player shoves you just far enough out of reach.
Again, none of the above are really critical elements of the game, but they are annoying and can get you killed. This translates into your teammates not having as much fun or getting really frustrated.
#1 use for shove, imho, is to get out the door of the bunker when playing allied. For all the people who say that the "good outweighs the bad" will probably see the above list and figure it's no big deal...I ask those people to turn the situation around. Why do you need to use push SO badly ALL the time? If you think the above are trite concerns, then so are the reasons for using push, especially when it can be bound to a key and used on an "as needed" basis.
One last note, (and this is again totally my opinion as I'll likely get flamed for it) I think it's cheesy to be using autopush to get past the axis as you run to the radio room. I'd rather have my teammates running with me, firing round after round and throwing grenade after grenade, painting the path to the radio room red with the blood of gibbed axis bodies.
-BT
- Edogg
by Edogg » Mon Feb 03, 2003 5:20 pm
cheesy...you dont think it is cheesy that some guy(some guy that i most likely had just killed to get to the war room, and has respawned) just sits in the doorway to block me so that all of the guys that are chasing me from behind can shoot me? sorry man but i do what it takes to win. Most of the time other players take their sweet time to accomplish things. im not like that. I know what i need to do, and im not going to wait for people to get their shit together. and i wish people would have read what i posted about binding push. i already explained why i dont bind it . im not going to do it again.
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by BulletToothTony » Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:15 pm
A lot of "I know" and "I do" in those statements Edogg. Last I checked this is a team game and I don't want to post the cliche about there being no I in team...oh wait...I just did.
Not ripping you directly, and I respect that you want to win and do what it takes to that end, what I ask is that people take a moment to look at things from the other side of the argument. To consider the fact that it isn't Edogg vs. Axis, it's usually 20-30 players vs. 20-30 players. The day you can win 1-30 by using autopush is the day that autopush should be removed completely because of how lame that would be.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but I haven't witnessed any axis who just stand in the doorway. Most are likely just trying to get through so they can attack.
Point is, I haven't noticed some significant increase in allied victories just because you can use autopush. You may feel that it is improving your individual play greatly (and maybe it is) but it isn't some major contribution to victory. It still comes down to who fields best team.
Props to S.S. btw seeing as how the team who typically wins is the one with the most S.S. members on it. It's the skill and teamwork of S.S. members that make the clan successful though, not autopush.
Respectfully,
-BT
Not ripping you directly, and I respect that you want to win and do what it takes to that end, what I ask is that people take a moment to look at things from the other side of the argument. To consider the fact that it isn't Edogg vs. Axis, it's usually 20-30 players vs. 20-30 players. The day you can win 1-30 by using autopush is the day that autopush should be removed completely because of how lame that would be.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but I haven't witnessed any axis who just stand in the doorway. Most are likely just trying to get through so they can attack.
Point is, I haven't noticed some significant increase in allied victories just because you can use autopush. You may feel that it is improving your individual play greatly (and maybe it is) but it isn't some major contribution to victory. It still comes down to who fields best team.
Props to S.S. btw seeing as how the team who typically wins is the one with the most S.S. members on it. It's the skill and teamwork of S.S. members that make the clan successful though, not autopush.
Respectfully,
-BT
- Cowgomoo
by Cowgomoo » Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:15 pm
dude, wolf is simple to handle, yes yes, i have tried auto push before, know what? it made the game that much gayer. i couldnt hand out ammo, or health directly at the people. my left pointer sits on the f button, only time it leaves that button its for: binocs, (buttons 1-6) and for giving ammo (give ammo command, not the ammo packs.) yes, i have realized its extra weight to have to push a button, but do u think that the other players like being pushed? i get pushed not only out away from people, but into fricken walls, nades, and sadly enough, end up killing myself. this game is not that complex, if ur a venom user, guess what u need to know? v, number pad, shoot, jump, crouch, move. thats not all that difficult to me, but dont get me wrong. i do consider myself lucky when it comes to keyboards. the bads are worse than the goods when it comes to auto shove. i say, hell, if you dont have the .5 sec to move ur finger and press that button, u need to take a chill pill, and a nap, realize its only a game. i know i may make some enamies with this post, but please, if you are that shallow minded to hate for my personal opinion, well... (no, im not singleing anybody out) well, i feel sorry for you. now, what part of play to have fun do we (yes, ive used that quote before, once again, not singleing you out dog) not understand? its only a game, your not the only person, let us all have fun.
- Edogg
by Edogg » Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:24 pm
Originally posted by BulletToothTony
A lot of "I know" and "I do" in those statements Edogg. Last I checked this is a team game and I don't want to post the cliche about there being no I in team...oh wait...I just did.
Not ripping you directly, and I respect that you want to win and do what it takes to that end, what I ask is that people take a moment to look at things from the other side of the argument. To consider the fact that it isn't Edogg vs. Axis, it's usually 20-30 players vs. 20-30 players. The day you can win 1-30 by using autopush is the day that autopush should be removed completely because of how lame that would be.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but I haven't witnessed any axis who just stand in the doorway. Most are likely just trying to get through so they can attack.
Point is, I haven't noticed some significant increase in allied victories just because you can use autopush. You may feel that it is improving your individual play greatly (and maybe it is) but it isn't some major contribution to victory. It still comes down to who fields best team.
Props to S.S. btw seeing as how the team who typically wins is the one with the most S.S. members on it. It's the skill and teamwork of S.S. members that make the clan successful though, not autopush.
Respectfully,
-BT
it has helped me win, i know cause ive experienced it. and it will in the future. usually when it comes in handy is when my team sucks, and it really does feel that it is edogg vs the axis. believe me i know teamwork is vital when the server is crowded. but when its under 40 players, its not as vital.
and to moo, thats fine if you dont like it. dont use it. I like it, so i will use it. hence that is where my fun comes from.
- Edogg
by Edogg » Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:48 pm
the funny thing is that i cant remmber the last time i pushed a guy on to a nade or out of a vent. and yet im defending the autopush because of idiots who dont know how to use it. everyone is generalizing their statements which associates me with those idiots.
also i dont mind when i get pushed. i dont whine about it or complain about it. even if im killed. Im understanding about it. what im not understanding about is people who casually stop in doorways or trenches or on stairs. Or the guys who like te to mosey along with their venom,panzer or flamer through the trenches. I have no patience for that. I know a lot of you guys dont either.
also i dont mind when i get pushed. i dont whine about it or complain about it. even if im killed. Im understanding about it. what im not understanding about is people who casually stop in doorways or trenches or on stairs. Or the guys who like te to mosey along with their venom,panzer or flamer through the trenches. I have no patience for that. I know a lot of you guys dont either.
- COL.BUKKAKE
by COL.BUKKAKE » Mon Feb 03, 2003 7:06 pm
Funny thing Doorblockers piss me off, but the ass with the autopush that nudges me in the vents rite up to the flame or the nade pisse me off more.....Just think, you have survived the friggin airstrikes up top just to get pushed to death by a teamate, now that sucks big time......not sayin you Dogg ur not a vents usin guy.....listen I dont mind dyin, but at least give me a chance to take somebody out. I'm not an offense type of guy, I know who the best doc runners are, but I enjoy the fact that I was helpin out by killin a few along the way........maybe the autopushers get off by takin a few teamates out along the way to victory, anythin for a win..........Just Win Baby:D
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