Marijuana

by **Jim0322** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:10 am

The smoking room seems like the perfect place to start a discussion about marijuana. Do you think it should be a legal prescription drug? Do you think it should be legal for any use but restricted like alcohol?

I think it should definitely be legal for medical use and would probably vote yes if asked about making it legal like alcohol although I don’t use it myself. Marijuana is not physically addictive. You can’t overdose and die from using it. Both alcohol and many prescription drugs will kill you if you use too much at one time. In addition, there are no real physical withdrawal symptoms for someone who has been abusing it regularly and stops cold turkey. Addicts who go cold turkey (immediately stop completely with no weaning or medical intervention) can die if they were using alcohol or certain prescription drugs.

Marijuana is certainly far more benign than many prescription drugs. It can also be argued that it poses less of a health risk than alcohol. Nobody dies from marijuana overdose or from suddenly quitting using it even after long months/years of heavy daily use. Alcoholics who quit cold turkey will get delirium tremens and can possibly die if not given medical attention.

Should alcohol be made illegal? Should marijuana be made legal? What do you think?

Jim

P.S. I did a search for marijuana before I posted this and did not find any marijuana subjects. That seemed a little surprising as everything seems to come up here.

by **Xenius** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:31 am

Didn't you see the happy birthday Yadad post? That was one gigantic reference to reefer.

by **cavalierlwt** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:52 am

I get stoned about once every five years of so, usually when I'm at a party where someone is passing a joint around and I'm too drunk to remember that I hate being stoned. So, I've used it, but I don't care for it, therefore I feel pretty neutral. That being said, they should definately legalize it. I can't think of a reason why it's illegal. I guess it is a cancer causing agent, but if they were going to shut it down for those reasons, then cigarette smokers would have been up the creek a long time ago. I enjoy a beer or two on occasion, but if we had to choose between outlawing alcohol or pot, the world really would be better off with pot being legal instead of alcohol. Much less driving under the influence deaths (there would still be some) and much fewer incidents of violence. Even the nicest people can get pretty vicious when drunk.

by **MajorFatty** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:56 am

Didn't you see the commericals? You are supporting terrorism by buying pot. What a damn joke. You are supporting terrorism buy fill your tank with gasoline.

by **Jim0322** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:04 am

Originally posted by MajorFatty
Didn't you see the commericals? You are supporting terrorism by buying pot. What a damn joke. You are supporting terrorism buy fill your tank with gasoline.

Great quote. I don't believe that either is true. However, if we were not such a huge gas hogging country, our dependence on foreign oil might not exist. There was the ad that SUV owners support terrorism and I think there is as much truth or more in that statement than the pot/terror link.

Jim

P.S. My last vehicle was an SUV, my current vehicle is a 4WD truck. I do feel a little guilty (enviromental impact), but I also use my vehicle off road occasionally and I am invovled in rescuing injured/lost people in caves in Indiana and some other states. Having a 4WD vechicle has come in handy on a few rescues I have been invovled in. I can't stand all the people with big 4WD gas hog vehicles who will never use or need to take them off road or into adverse conditions. Hummers really piss me off, 99% of the people who own them will never really need a vehicle like that.

by **MajorFatty** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:08 am

Sorry for the bad grammar.
fill = filling

by **MajorFatty** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:19 am

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but here 's one interesting article about gasoline/terrorism.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/53865p-50491c.html

As for legalizing weed, I would love to sit in a local coffee shop and order some space cake while puffing on a fatty.

by **Bagginses** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:33 am

Originally posted by MajorFatty
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but here 's one interesting article about gasoline/terrorism.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/53865p-50491c.html

Someone please start a thread on this.

As far as pot goes, I'm pretty "meh" about it.

-Bagginses

by **Sir Loin** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:55 am

smoking dope is not that bad..Legalize, or dont legalize it. People are still going to buy it. As for a previous statement about a cancer causing agent in weed, I dont know if there are any, but im not 100% positive.

Here is a question......If given a UA drug test, how many of you guys would pass it or fail it? (Yadad, Animal Cracka, myself excluded):D

by **RCglider** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:01 pm

A friend I grew up with has been smoking pot for 25 years. His use of it hasn't changed him at all; he still has low paying jobs, doesn't care much about improving himself, can't remember anything, is paranoid everyone's out to get him and dreams of the day he can collect disability or win the lotto so he can have more time to smoke dope so he can cope with life. Nah, it's not addictive.

If anyone thinks pot doesn't have negative health effects, both mental and physical, they must be smoking something.

by **Namloot** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:05 pm

Pot should be legalized, it's no worse than alchohol.

Bert

by **MajorFatty** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:06 pm

Originally posted by RCglider
A friend I grew up with has been smoking pot for 25 years. His use of it hasn't changed him at all; he still has low paying jobs, doesn't care much about improving himself, can't remember anything, is paranoid everyone's out to get him and dreams of the day he can collect disability or win the lotto so he can have more time to smoke dope so he can cope with life. Nah, it's not addictive.

If anyone thinks pot doesn't have negative health effects, both mental and physical, they must be smoking something.

You think your friend's situation would be better if he never started smoking pot and was alcholic instead?

by **Jim0322** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:07 pm

Originally posted by RCglider
A friend I grew up with has been smoking pot for 25 years. His use of it hasn't changed him at all; he still has low paying jobs, doesn't care much about improving himself, can't remember anything, is paranoid everyone's out to get him and dreams of the day he can collect disability or win the lotto so he can have more time to smoke dope so he can cope with life. Nah, it's not addictive.

If anyone thinks pot doesn't have negative health effects, both mental and physical, they must be smoking something.

You can say the same about alcohol except someone using for 25 years is more likely to be dead already.
Jim

by **Bagginses** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:22 pm

Different people have different mental conditions. It's all based on a person by person basis. Some people just have personalities that make them addicted to things. Your friend, glider, could probably be just as addicted to alcohol, biking, and Battlefield as he is to marijuana. That's different than have a chemical, nicotine, that makes you be addicted to it.

-Bagginses

by **Chacal** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:27 pm

Come live in Canada!

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