I just bought my last AMD

by **RCglider** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:36 am

Well AMD, you just signed your death warrant.
http://www.ocprices.com/?rev_id=179
http://www.overclockers.com/articles868/

by **Janlop** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:30 am

Though that news is a little old .. your reasons are justifiable

However the price will more than likely always sway me away from Intel .. their current L3 cache of 2MB is very intriguing.. But I'm not going to be updating for a good while, so there is still time for more updates from both companies

by **JimmyTango** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:10 am

All you have to do is increase your FSB.

Intel's has been this way for awhile. They also are the overclocking champs compared to AMD.

by **RCglider** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:55 am

Originally posted by JimmyTango
All you have to do is increase your FSB.

Intel's has been this way for awhile. They also are the overclocking champs compared to AMD.

That's the point though. You don't need high FSB ram to get the performance out of an AMD. I'm using pc2100 that works just fine. I'm not willing to go out and spend $250+ just to say I can overclock the FSB of the cpu.
For gaming, AMD just couldn't be beat. Those that have had both platforms can relate to what I mean by that. Then there was the myth oj how much cooler an Intel was than an AMD. Whatever, that's not the issue.
The whole point of going with AMD is because you don't need to spend $$$ on the system to make it work, and with the current nF2 boards with soundstorm, the gaming enthusiast had it made. I know of no Intel mobo that offers integrated sound that can rival the soundstorm.
I'm not really loyal to any brand, but I don't like spending money unnecessarily. That's why I chuckle when I hear guys with P4 2.4 systems having lag issues with BF42, when I know a XP1600 works fine. Even my old 1.4 tbird runs better than most sub 2 ghz Intels.

BTW, those guys using nf2 boards thinking they have soundstorm, better think again. Only Abit, Asus, Shuttle and FIC I think offer the certified soundstorm (look up nvidia's list). So, if your game is lagging. it may very well be because of the onboard sound. Sanpro411 recently posted about this.
I recently builit a Shuttle AN35N Ultra ($56, no soundstorm) nf2 Barton xp2500 ($91), Hercules 7.1 sound ($43), Crucial pc2700 1gb ($160). Total: $350 I dare say a comparable Intel configuration could be had for less than $500.

I voiced my concerns to AMD. Their solution? Go buy a FX51 cpu. LOL! Idiots. To top it off, one thing that kept me from moving back to Intel was AMD pledged NOT to lock the multiplier on their new generation chips, which until week 39, they didn't. This was a surprise move, which adds fuel to the fire. Their misdeed includes not only the Bartons, but XP's as well.
Oh well, so much for AMD. What's the hot setup going for an Intel?

by **RCglider** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:07 am

Originally posted by =GC=Janlop
Though that news is a little old .. your reasons are justifiable

However the price will more than likely always sway me away from Intel .. their current L3 cache of 2MB is very intriguing.. But I'm not going to be updating for a good while, so there is still time for more updates from both companies

Nice system you have there.
It may be old news, but it blindsided the vast majority. I suppose if the price difference remains well under Intel, I 'may' reconsider. However, IMO AMD will hurt because of their decision and may not recover. I think they are staking their future on the A64 platform, but if they leave the average guy hanging, which is their bread and butter, it may spell the end in the not so distant future. Believe me, there are much more radical thinkers than me that will react with greater displeasure. Check the forums, you'll see what I mean.

by **JimmyTango** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:10 am

Um, Intel boards have memory dividers, so your ram is running much lower than your proc if need be.

However, Intel procs do benifit from added memory bandwidth, where as AMD procs do not.

by **sanpro411** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:17 am

I agree, I run a xp1600, and it runs fine at 1900 speeds with a higher multi, since I wont be able to do that with a xp3000, why spend 200 or more for it, I'll wait and if it never gets down under 100 in a short time, then I might as well save up and move to a intel platform. Just what intel wanted was another reason to choose intel over amd, and amd gave it to them.

amd=:tard:

by **Evan** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:32 pm

Several people have been kind enough to mail me with a method on how to unlock these chips for use in dual motherboards, it is very easy and I am working on a quick one page guide which will be released tonight

From the first article RC.

I just bought my last AMD

I just bought my last AMD

bye bye amd

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