Sun Mar 23, 2003 11:40 pm
Not defending Arafat and the Palesinians. Besides Israel receives about 40 Billion in aid per year from the US alone.
Oh yea, I forgot to mention that Israel also sells our technology to China, Korea, and any other country that can afford to pay for it. For me to defend this, I would have to be not only insane, but a traitor to all that I believe and this country. To all my fellow countrymen who support Israel, you are traitors to your country and your troops which you claim you love so much, for you are condoning the giving of our enemies the very weaponry that will kill our sons and daughters.
So I can not, nor will not support that asshole Sharon, nor anyone who stands beside him. This is not anti-semetic. This is common sense.
Our domestic corporations are forbidden to deal directly with rouge nations, but can through a third party mediary? This is assanine.
If any cared to look this up go to http://www.democracynow.org
The US got their hands on the Iragi Security Council report on their weapon declaration, and then proceeded to edit out 8000 pages, with full blessing of the security council.
In those 8000 pages, the list of companies that helped arm Iraq reads like a who's who of big business, including HP, serveral Weapons Labs, our good friends at Du Pont and many others from US, UK, China, France, Germany, Russia, and heaven knows who else.
These actions to arm Iraq and give them the knowledge to make Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Weapons took place in the last 10 years...after Desert Storm 1 and before Shrub's Farce, err Campaign.
Shrub's daddy gave Iraq and Iran weapons during the Ira/Iraq war with the help of Olly North and Brown and Rowe (subsidiary of Halliburton, headed by Dick Chenny, our VP). So did Russia. So did France. So did Germany. So did the UK.
Do you get the picture? They play both sides of the field. Ruin a country and then take it over through whatever lackey they can get into power. If the lackey gets too big for his britches, well then you get Desert Storm and the Sequel.
So say what you will about the Palestinians. They are waging a war for their very survival, even if Arafat is a lackey of the west. I just can not believe Israel's claim that htey act in self defense. I have eyes and choose not to close them.
Oh one more little tidbit of information: Almost all the Arab leaders are Egypt Temple Shriners. A sub-group of the Freemasons. Which is a sub-group of the Illuminati. Which is a sub-group of the Knights Templar. Which is under direct control of the Jesuits. Thus the Vatican. Remeber the Roman Catholic Church is a State recognized by the UN, has a embasy here in America, and directs our foregin policy through the CFR, always has.
I suggest you go out and get Rulers of Evil and Vatican Assassains. These books tell all and took about 20 years to research collectively. They go into more detail about the whole situation of these secret societies and their ultimate agenda: To bring about the Prophesies of the Bible, wether you believe in the Bible or not is irrelevant.
This is the mideast we see today.
You may now return to your regulary scheduled CIA programming.
Oh yea, I forgot to mention that Israel also sells our technology to China, Korea, and any other country that can afford to pay for it. For me to defend this, I would have to be not only insane, but a traitor to all that I believe and this country. To all my fellow countrymen who support Israel, you are traitors to your country and your troops which you claim you love so much, for you are condoning the giving of our enemies the very weaponry that will kill our sons and daughters.
So I can not, nor will not support that asshole Sharon, nor anyone who stands beside him. This is not anti-semetic. This is common sense.
Our domestic corporations are forbidden to deal directly with rouge nations, but can through a third party mediary? This is assanine.
If any cared to look this up go to http://www.democracynow.org
The US got their hands on the Iragi Security Council report on their weapon declaration, and then proceeded to edit out 8000 pages, with full blessing of the security council.
In those 8000 pages, the list of companies that helped arm Iraq reads like a who's who of big business, including HP, serveral Weapons Labs, our good friends at Du Pont and many others from US, UK, China, France, Germany, Russia, and heaven knows who else.
These actions to arm Iraq and give them the knowledge to make Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Weapons took place in the last 10 years...after Desert Storm 1 and before Shrub's Farce, err Campaign.
Shrub's daddy gave Iraq and Iran weapons during the Ira/Iraq war with the help of Olly North and Brown and Rowe (subsidiary of Halliburton, headed by Dick Chenny, our VP). So did Russia. So did France. So did Germany. So did the UK.
Do you get the picture? They play both sides of the field. Ruin a country and then take it over through whatever lackey they can get into power. If the lackey gets too big for his britches, well then you get Desert Storm and the Sequel.
So say what you will about the Palestinians. They are waging a war for their very survival, even if Arafat is a lackey of the west. I just can not believe Israel's claim that htey act in self defense. I have eyes and choose not to close them.
Oh one more little tidbit of information: Almost all the Arab leaders are Egypt Temple Shriners. A sub-group of the Freemasons. Which is a sub-group of the Illuminati. Which is a sub-group of the Knights Templar. Which is under direct control of the Jesuits. Thus the Vatican. Remeber the Roman Catholic Church is a State recognized by the UN, has a embasy here in America, and directs our foregin policy through the CFR, always has.
I suggest you go out and get Rulers of Evil and Vatican Assassains. These books tell all and took about 20 years to research collectively. They go into more detail about the whole situation of these secret societies and their ultimate agenda: To bring about the Prophesies of the Bible, wether you believe in the Bible or not is irrelevant.
This is the mideast we see today.
You may now return to your regulary scheduled CIA programming.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 2:10 am
Ahhhh, the things some idiots believe...copy-pasted or not.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 4:23 am
Hey! Saddams not dead yet...
btw this is all very interesting! I never knew half of this crap.
Good to know.
btw this is all very interesting! I never knew half of this crap.
Good to know.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:50 am
No one wants to hear that stupid crap your posting BB.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:57 am
Gee and I wonder who would have come to our aid in iraq had things not gone as well as they did, not perhaps a half a million Israeli soldiers. Our ace in the hole if all went bad!
No I know the arab states would all joined and helped us. The same folks celebrating the executuon of our soldiers.
No I know the arab states would all joined and helped us. The same folks celebrating the executuon of our soldiers.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 3:35 pm
for me Israel is as terroristic as Palestina...
just like the country's that support USA: in england Blair has oppsition from his own political group...
in Turkey they only allow american help for lots of help and to get some oilfields for themselfs... (you see they totally agree with the war
)
and America just want to stop Saddam's regime... then why they don't want turkey to help them? all the oilfields for themselfs is a little egoïstic don't you think...
(and everyone knows that israel = america... they've build israel...)
just like the country's that support USA: in england Blair has oppsition from his own political group...
in Turkey they only allow american help for lots of help and to get some oilfields for themselfs... (you see they totally agree with the war
)
and America just want to stop Saddam's regime... then why they don't want turkey to help them? all the oilfields for themselfs is a little egoïstic don't you think...
(and everyone knows that israel = america... they've build israel...)
Mon Mar 24, 2003 3:42 pm
NO WIZARD,
WE WANT THE IRAQI PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND NOT FOR IRAQS NEIGHBOR TO INVADE AND TAKE HER TERRITORY. THERE MUST BE A BALANCE OF POWER OR YOU WILL HAVE A WEAK LITTLE NATION LIKE KUWAIT. ONE WHO CAN NOT DEFEND ITSELF. THESE ARAB NATIONS ARE NOT NECESSARILY FRIENDLY TOWARD ONE ANOTHER. ie IRAQ/IRAN WAR. WE DO NOT WANT TO CREATE MORE PROBLEMS THAN ALREADY EXIST AND WE KNOW THAT TURKEY IS NO PRODIGAL CHILD.
WE WANT THE IRAQI PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND NOT FOR IRAQS NEIGHBOR TO INVADE AND TAKE HER TERRITORY. THERE MUST BE A BALANCE OF POWER OR YOU WILL HAVE A WEAK LITTLE NATION LIKE KUWAIT. ONE WHO CAN NOT DEFEND ITSELF. THESE ARAB NATIONS ARE NOT NECESSARILY FRIENDLY TOWARD ONE ANOTHER. ie IRAQ/IRAN WAR. WE DO NOT WANT TO CREATE MORE PROBLEMS THAN ALREADY EXIST AND WE KNOW THAT TURKEY IS NO PRODIGAL CHILD.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 3:54 pm
(to put off capslock, press shift)
sure, you attack them to give them a destroyed country back... why don't i believe you? the aidworkers can't even reach the people... people that doesn't have water... you guyshave money enough for the war but i didn't saw anything about medical help etc...
if you knowthe reassons of yuor "president" so good i hope both you and your president know that it is YOUR responsibility to take care of iraqi people... every single one that dies there now is becuase of your fault...
if you don't wonna create problem then don't make war cause that only creates more "bin laden's"
sure, you attack them to give them a destroyed country back... why don't i believe you? the aidworkers can't even reach the people... people that doesn't have water... you guyshave money enough for the war but i didn't saw anything about medical help etc...
if you knowthe reassons of yuor "president" so good i hope both you and your president know that it is YOUR responsibility to take care of iraqi people... every single one that dies there now is becuase of your fault...
if you don't wonna create problem then don't make war cause that only creates more "bin laden's"
Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:13 pm
Renz is correct.
If we are there to "liberate and free" the Iraqi people from this horrible monster, would we not bring in humanitarian aid to those who need it.
Afterall, it is our bombs raining down of these "non-combatants" disrupting their lives and making them suffer. Saddam was our creation. He is our problem, not theirs.
If we do not help them, as per The Geneva Convention and out of basic goodwill, are we not as guilty as Saddam? Afterall, he withheld UN food shipments, provided no running water, and even rudimentary medical care did not make it to the people. Or at least that is what we were sold.
Would this not be a great PR opportunity (at the least) to the rest of the Arab world that we are actually here to help? This has goldmine written all over it, or is it just fool's gold, packaged and delived to our dinner tables as the real thing?
Or are we going to idly while let hundreds of thousands more Iraqi people die from lack of even the basic accomadations of life, such as food, water, and shelter.
Did these people attack America? Did they ask for this war? Are they not just caught in the middle of two moronic assholes in a pissing contest? Do they not deserve the same that we would do no less than demand? Or should we say, fuck 'em and let them die like the American hating bastards we have been "taught" they are? Where is your value of human life, for the lack of which I have seen in these forums is appaulling, not to mention down right frightening.
You can now return to your regularly scheduled CIA programming.
If we are there to "liberate and free" the Iraqi people from this horrible monster, would we not bring in humanitarian aid to those who need it.
Afterall, it is our bombs raining down of these "non-combatants" disrupting their lives and making them suffer. Saddam was our creation. He is our problem, not theirs.
If we do not help them, as per The Geneva Convention and out of basic goodwill, are we not as guilty as Saddam? Afterall, he withheld UN food shipments, provided no running water, and even rudimentary medical care did not make it to the people. Or at least that is what we were sold.
Would this not be a great PR opportunity (at the least) to the rest of the Arab world that we are actually here to help? This has goldmine written all over it, or is it just fool's gold, packaged and delived to our dinner tables as the real thing?
Or are we going to idly while let hundreds of thousands more Iraqi people die from lack of even the basic accomadations of life, such as food, water, and shelter.
Did these people attack America? Did they ask for this war? Are they not just caught in the middle of two moronic assholes in a pissing contest? Do they not deserve the same that we would do no less than demand? Or should we say, fuck 'em and let them die like the American hating bastards we have been "taught" they are? Where is your value of human life, for the lack of which I have seen in these forums is appaulling, not to mention down right frightening.
You can now return to your regularly scheduled CIA programming.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:11 pm
Budda is correct. The US is trying to sell us this war with the argument "We will free the people of Iraq" but if we see reality, the US does not really care about the Iraqi people.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:23 pm
The Presidaent will be telling our Gov that 20billion used for Humanitarian aid.......My fucking God....you people make me sick..........How the fuck do you expect the Aid workers to get in when you have evry friggin Iraqi running around acting like civilians and pulling weapons out on unsuspecting soldiers...
Makes me laugh that these frigging countries forget the Country that spent millions in the rebuilding of Europe after WWII........The only reason France has any say is becuase of the USA (we felt sorry for them)
I am not Jewish, hell I wouldnt like anything more than to see the whole entire middle east blown to shit, but the friggin anti-semitism that rises from the Belgians is so friggin obvious, that Ray Charles can see it. Your friggin shit hole of a Gov has been feeding you guys nothing but anti-American anti-Jew for so long that the only good you can possibly see is the destruction of both.
It makes me fucking sick, you ungreatfull bastards.
Makes me laugh that these frigging countries forget the Country that spent millions in the rebuilding of Europe after WWII........The only reason France has any say is becuase of the USA (we felt sorry for them)
I am not Jewish, hell I wouldnt like anything more than to see the whole entire middle east blown to shit, but the friggin anti-semitism that rises from the Belgians is so friggin obvious, that Ray Charles can see it. Your friggin shit hole of a Gov has been feeding you guys nothing but anti-American anti-Jew for so long that the only good you can possibly see is the destruction of both.
It makes me fucking sick, you ungreatfull bastards.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:49 pm
Yeah, it makes me sick too. Its people like them that make me question our relations with Western Europe, excluding the UK.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:07 pm
Originally posted by [WEF]Herr Renz
(to put off capslock, press shift)
sure, you attack them to give them a destroyed country back... why don't i believe you? the aidworkers can't even reach the people... people that doesn't have water... you guyshave money enough for the war but i didn't saw anything about medical help etc...
if you knowthe reassons of yuor "president" so good i hope both you and your president know that it is YOUR responsibility to take care of iraqi people... every single one that dies there now is becuase of your fault...
if you don't wonna create problem then don't make war cause that only creates more "bin laden's"
1) We will rebuild Iraq, just as we did France,Germany, Japan and others after WWII(how quickly Eurpeans forget)
2) Aid workers cant get in because the area is not secure enough, due to the fact that the Iraqi military are disguising themselves as civilians and killing our soldiers.
3) Bush has just asked our Gov for 20 billion in aid for the Iraqi's.
4) The Iraqi people are not our problem, they are the world's problem. If your country and France and the wonderful Germany would have put aside their backdoor dealings with Saddam and forced him to disarm our soldiers wouldnt have to do it for the rest of the world.
5) Dont worry you dont have to worry bout another Bin Laden, becuase Belgium, France and Germany make it pewrfectly clear that they are anti-semitic and appease the vast Muslim population that thrives throughout Western Europe.
Funny isnt Renz hearing things from our side of the fence. Maybe you should turn off Al-Jazeera TV and tune into Fox News once in a while......Dont say CNN because CNN=Al-Jazeera
Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:11 pm
For all of your doubters who still believe that this country is the land of the free and home of the brave, or that your country is being stolen right out from underneath you, I challenge you to read the following. If this doesn't make your stomach turn, you are already dead.
Read it. Understand it. Get pissed.
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/cafr1/Trans.html
This is your future, your life, and your heritage they are stealing. Is this what you want your sons and daughters, your friends and family dying for?
You are being decieved and don't realize it.
You are being lied to but don't care.
You are about to become obsolete, deleted from existence, but won't remove the blinders.
You are the uniformed masses you will one day leap off the cliff like good little lemmings.
I cease to return you to your original CIA programming. I choose to wake you fuckers up, for you are living in the Matrix.
Read it. Understand it. Get pissed.
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/cafr1/Trans.html
This is your future, your life, and your heritage they are stealing. Is this what you want your sons and daughters, your friends and family dying for?
You are being decieved and don't realize it.
You are being lied to but don't care.
You are about to become obsolete, deleted from existence, but won't remove the blinders.
You are the uniformed masses you will one day leap off the cliff like good little lemmings.
I cease to return you to your original CIA programming. I choose to wake you fuckers up, for you are living in the Matrix.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:01 pm
Originally posted by COL.BUKKAKE
The Presidaent will be telling our Gov that 20billion used for Humanitarian aid.......My fucking God....you people make me sick..........How the fuck do you expect the Aid workers to get in when you have evry friggin Iraqi running around acting like civilians and pulling weapons out on unsuspecting soldiers...
Makes me laugh that these frigging countries forget the Country that spent millions in the rebuilding of Europe after WWII........The only reason France has any say is becuase of the USA (we felt sorry for them)
I am not Jewish, hell I wouldnt like anything more than to see the whole entire middle east blown to shit, but the friggin anti-semitism that rises from the Belgians is so friggin obvious, that Ray Charles can see it. Your friggin shit hole of a Gov has been feeding you guys nothing but anti-American anti-Jew for so long that the only good you can possibly see is the destruction of both.
It makes me fucking sick, you ungreatfull bastards.
Hey man, I cant help the way you guys are profiling yourself in the world. The way you profile yourself right now, will cause much more hathred towards your country, mark my words...
For the anti-semitic part, its the last time I explain this to you because I already explained twice: WE DONT HATE JEWS. WE ONLY DISAGREE WITH THE WAY SHARON IS TREATING THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. Bulldozing peoples houses, shooting kids, taking all the water supplies by installing Jewish settlements on top of them and give the Palestines nothing,... We also dont agree with the Palestinian way, but you can clearly see that the Palestinians suffer much more. Look at the death rate from after the 2nd intifada.