US MILITARY ACTION IN IRAQ Y or N?
- El Cid
by El Cid » Thu Mar 20, 2003 5:25 am
THanks Rule of Wrist, I read that essay and took alot of it to heart. That guy Lee Harris puts a very perspicuous spin on the current crisis. Whats great is that he's not weak minded like most intellectuals. That guy is a role model for anyone who thinks independently, thanks for the link.
by bayotanzk » Thu Mar 20, 2003 1:46 pm
Our troops are in iraq and seems to be going well. 2 scuds shot down. Our forces are moving. British troops are engaged in battle also! They have stated they are going to try to leave as much internal structure in tact as possible to aid in the reconstruction. Freedom of speech. Who knows we might be playing RTCW with some folks from iraq in the furture!
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- BloodBudda
by BloodBudda » Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:19 pm
This "war" is a farce; the outcome predetermined.
US and UK will control the oil fields after the war to keep all other oil dependent nations at their heels.
Israel will receive not only the benefit of ridding itself of one of their most hated aggressors and staunch supporters of the Palistinian people, but will now be able to access the Tigris and Euphtrates Rivers, something seemingly missing in these discussions.
With the American Arm of Israel's Zionist Army (Bush's top 16 advisors are pro-Israel and pro-Zionist. They are also, like their Israeli government, under control of the Vatican through the Jesuits and will betray their people in the near future, just like their predecessors with Hitler and the Concentration Camps), they have to eradicate and replace Iranian, Egyptian, Syrian, Lybian, and possibly Saudi Arabian Governments with new dictators of the pro-American (thus pro-Israel, thus pro-Jesuit) persuasion. (after all the Jesuits need the gold recently "discovered" in Mecca to build the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem so the Jesuits can bring about the prophesies of the Bilble; wether or not they are true)
Now to get around that little mess of having to raze Jerusalem, the wonderful, benevolent American President (be it Shrub or whatever little lackey they put into office), will irate the Muslum Hordes and send them into a frenzy, and into the hands of our (still) CIA operative bin-Laden. Which he will them have them, in slaughterhouse style, attack Israel, most notably Jerusalem, prompting a response by the American Zionists to defend Israel, destroying not only any remaining mosque or Islamic-related temples, but also Jerusalem. (This way the US avoids getting any egg on its face while leveling a holy city to nearly everyone in the world)
Once the American Zionist enter Mecca in Southern Saudi Arabia, expect 2 things to happen:
1 Farakhann (sp?) with his Nation of Islam (hate whitey) and the KKK will somehow begin a race war here, probalbly Farakhann blaming the Judeans (A little tidbit: The word "JEW" is Jesuit. They made the word up so they could come out of hiding after the Chrisitans took over Rome and turned it from Bloodthirsty Empire to Genuine Republic, the heyday of the Romans. Judeans are the biblical Jews, God's chosen people. That is what I call them to avoid confusion.) and Chrisitans of waging some sort of Holy War against Islam by entering Mecca with the intent to defoul or something along those lines.
2 through Cuba and Miami, muslums will come pouring into the US. Why Cuba? Well you heard of JFK, right?? You heard of that little thing called the Cuban Missile Crisis, right?? Well, the outcome of the Crisis, was the handing over of Cuba to the Russians (mostly to keep Americans living in fear during the first few years of the Cold War, thus not questioning our leaders. Hence all the references to the 50's as being the best years anyone can remember. Ignorance is bliss) and the Russinas decided to stockpile a whole bunch of ammunition, guns, vehicle and such. Just for a day like this. Oh them crafty Russians !!
Oh yea, I forgot to mention the Huge Shipbuilding / Vehicle plant being built in the Bahamas by the Chineese. OR the 20 or so ports they control in California. OR the military bases being construted in Mexico. OR the fact that one the heads of the Chineese Intelligence Agency and Royal Elite has a direct line to the White House.
Oh yea, I forgot to mention that during Vietnam and Korea, our troops were betrayed by the very leaders they relied upon. All troop deployments and tatical plans for Korea and Vietnam had to be approved by the UN (headed by and always will by a Russian) so the enemy knew when, where, with how many troops, their battle plan, and strategy sometimes 24 hours in advance. To this day there are STILL POW's ABANDONED in Vietnam and Korea (they probably make some of the products you buy now, at gunpoint of course)
Oh yea, I forgot all of this is funded by the Jesuits and the Vatican. They like to have control of all sides.
This war is a farce; a distraction from what is really going on.
America is being stolen away from each and every one of you, but all you can think about is controlling the oil and getting that ruthless (CIA trained and placed) dictator. All you can think about is bombing the shit out of Iraq to teach them a lesson.
I can see the public goverment-sponsored school system has done its job; create perfect corporate cosumers who regurgitate instead of think, read, decide the truth for yourselves, and then make informed decisions.
But hey, thinking is too hard. It may even require you to be wrong once in a while. So why bother. (I've been wrong a thousand times, all very well may be a thousand more)
Hell, I'll bet you didn't even know that he 14th amendment made everyone in this country equal. It made everyone slaves.
When government fears the people, there is liberty.
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
---Thomas Jefferson
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be ... The People cannot be safe without information. When the press is free, and every man is able to read, all is safe."
---Thomas Jefferson (again, man this guy was great)
My advice to everyone who wished to reply:
Do not reply with the fact we want the oil - it is given and not a valid arguement for war (after all what part of "thou shall not kill" do you not understand??).
Do not go into some religious qunadry for this is not a religious discussion, this is information you need to know. I hold my spiritual beliefs higher than you will ever be able to reach and they are not open for debate. The biblical references are for your reference to how the forces that be are woking you into a frenzy.
Read a freakin book once in a while. You know what books are right? The have more than 20 pages, and some even have words that are more than 2 syllables. Some even have no pictures and actually inform you beyond what clinic Britiney Spears had her breast job.
So now, you may agree with what I say. You may disagree. I care not. For even if only one person knows the truth, the truth is still the truth --Ghandi
You may now resume your regularly scheduled CIA sponsored mental programming.
US and UK will control the oil fields after the war to keep all other oil dependent nations at their heels.
Israel will receive not only the benefit of ridding itself of one of their most hated aggressors and staunch supporters of the Palistinian people, but will now be able to access the Tigris and Euphtrates Rivers, something seemingly missing in these discussions.
With the American Arm of Israel's Zionist Army (Bush's top 16 advisors are pro-Israel and pro-Zionist. They are also, like their Israeli government, under control of the Vatican through the Jesuits and will betray their people in the near future, just like their predecessors with Hitler and the Concentration Camps), they have to eradicate and replace Iranian, Egyptian, Syrian, Lybian, and possibly Saudi Arabian Governments with new dictators of the pro-American (thus pro-Israel, thus pro-Jesuit) persuasion. (after all the Jesuits need the gold recently "discovered" in Mecca to build the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem so the Jesuits can bring about the prophesies of the Bilble; wether or not they are true)
Now to get around that little mess of having to raze Jerusalem, the wonderful, benevolent American President (be it Shrub or whatever little lackey they put into office), will irate the Muslum Hordes and send them into a frenzy, and into the hands of our (still) CIA operative bin-Laden. Which he will them have them, in slaughterhouse style, attack Israel, most notably Jerusalem, prompting a response by the American Zionists to defend Israel, destroying not only any remaining mosque or Islamic-related temples, but also Jerusalem. (This way the US avoids getting any egg on its face while leveling a holy city to nearly everyone in the world)
Once the American Zionist enter Mecca in Southern Saudi Arabia, expect 2 things to happen:
1 Farakhann (sp?) with his Nation of Islam (hate whitey) and the KKK will somehow begin a race war here, probalbly Farakhann blaming the Judeans (A little tidbit: The word "JEW" is Jesuit. They made the word up so they could come out of hiding after the Chrisitans took over Rome and turned it from Bloodthirsty Empire to Genuine Republic, the heyday of the Romans. Judeans are the biblical Jews, God's chosen people. That is what I call them to avoid confusion.) and Chrisitans of waging some sort of Holy War against Islam by entering Mecca with the intent to defoul or something along those lines.
2 through Cuba and Miami, muslums will come pouring into the US. Why Cuba? Well you heard of JFK, right?? You heard of that little thing called the Cuban Missile Crisis, right?? Well, the outcome of the Crisis, was the handing over of Cuba to the Russians (mostly to keep Americans living in fear during the first few years of the Cold War, thus not questioning our leaders. Hence all the references to the 50's as being the best years anyone can remember. Ignorance is bliss) and the Russinas decided to stockpile a whole bunch of ammunition, guns, vehicle and such. Just for a day like this. Oh them crafty Russians !!
Oh yea, I forgot to mention the Huge Shipbuilding / Vehicle plant being built in the Bahamas by the Chineese. OR the 20 or so ports they control in California. OR the military bases being construted in Mexico. OR the fact that one the heads of the Chineese Intelligence Agency and Royal Elite has a direct line to the White House.
Oh yea, I forgot to mention that during Vietnam and Korea, our troops were betrayed by the very leaders they relied upon. All troop deployments and tatical plans for Korea and Vietnam had to be approved by the UN (headed by and always will by a Russian) so the enemy knew when, where, with how many troops, their battle plan, and strategy sometimes 24 hours in advance. To this day there are STILL POW's ABANDONED in Vietnam and Korea (they probably make some of the products you buy now, at gunpoint of course)
Oh yea, I forgot all of this is funded by the Jesuits and the Vatican. They like to have control of all sides.
This war is a farce; a distraction from what is really going on.
America is being stolen away from each and every one of you, but all you can think about is controlling the oil and getting that ruthless (CIA trained and placed) dictator. All you can think about is bombing the shit out of Iraq to teach them a lesson.
I can see the public goverment-sponsored school system has done its job; create perfect corporate cosumers who regurgitate instead of think, read, decide the truth for yourselves, and then make informed decisions.
But hey, thinking is too hard. It may even require you to be wrong once in a while. So why bother. (I've been wrong a thousand times, all very well may be a thousand more)
Hell, I'll bet you didn't even know that he 14th amendment made everyone in this country equal. It made everyone slaves.
When government fears the people, there is liberty.
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
---Thomas Jefferson
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be ... The People cannot be safe without information. When the press is free, and every man is able to read, all is safe."
---Thomas Jefferson (again, man this guy was great)
My advice to everyone who wished to reply:
Do not reply with the fact we want the oil - it is given and not a valid arguement for war (after all what part of "thou shall not kill" do you not understand??).
Do not go into some religious qunadry for this is not a religious discussion, this is information you need to know. I hold my spiritual beliefs higher than you will ever be able to reach and they are not open for debate. The biblical references are for your reference to how the forces that be are woking you into a frenzy.
Read a freakin book once in a while. You know what books are right? The have more than 20 pages, and some even have words that are more than 2 syllables. Some even have no pictures and actually inform you beyond what clinic Britiney Spears had her breast job.
So now, you may agree with what I say. You may disagree. I care not. For even if only one person knows the truth, the truth is still the truth --Ghandi
You may now resume your regularly scheduled CIA sponsored mental programming.
- Edogg
by Edogg » Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:49 pm
sorry to say this blood budda, but you are a tool.
everyone thinks they are right , everyone thinks they know exactly whats going on. every one thinks they know all of the conspiracies. i think thats bullshit. the truth is blood, you dont know any better than the rest of us about whats going on. its all a gamble.
everyone thinks they are right , everyone thinks they know exactly whats going on. every one thinks they know all of the conspiracies. i think thats bullshit. the truth is blood, you dont know any better than the rest of us about whats going on. its all a gamble.
- Doug the Unforgiven
by Doug the Unforgiven » Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:57 pm
Originally posted by COL.BUKKAKE
I think I saw BloodBudda's post as a movie with that kid Kirk(dont remember his last name) called Left Behind.
Basically same premise, I believe it was a book turned into a movie. Wasnt a bad "B" movie though:D
Don't laugh, but I've read most of those books.
by bayotanzk » Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:08 pm
WOW,
BloodBudda- YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING. LIKE AFTER THAT DRIBBLE A RESPONSE IS NECESSARY.
EDIT; I WENT TO PRIVATE SCHOOL
BloodBudda- YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING. LIKE AFTER THAT DRIBBLE A RESPONSE IS NECESSARY.
EDIT; I WENT TO PRIVATE SCHOOL
486 dx 50 -32 megs ram -8 meg vid card -120 meg HD -14"vga monitor, dos 5.0
- Ralph Wiggum
by Ralph Wiggum » Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:37 pm
Regarding Blood Budda's post, all I can say is "wow." I have no doubt that Anton and Keekano will be just as shocked (but not awed) by that post as the rest of us.
On another note, I came across this speech by a British Lt. Col. to his men and thought that some of you would appreciate it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2866581.stm
On another note, I came across this speech by a British Lt. Col. to his men and thought that some of you would appreciate it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2866581.stm
- BloodBudda
by BloodBudda » Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:34 pm
Oh yea, I also forget to mention that once the Kittyhawk Battle Group left port, there are no battlegroups in the Pacific.
With Hawaii clamoring for independence, they may just get it. Just in time for the Chineese takeover of the Pacific rim.
Ahh, the Chineese. They are anxious to kick everyone's ass for the ultimate takeover. Afterall, they have been the punching bag in the Far East for far too long. They will be poised for a complete takeover of the Pacific Rim, especially with Japan and Australlia having removed all guns from thier shores. All the other countries are just China's for the taking.
Stepping stones across the Pacific.
Another thing, China also controls a lttle known waterway called the Panama Canal.
They will be backed by Russia and their electro-magnetic Tesla technology they have been perfecting. Hence the eagerness to disarm so many nukes in treaty agreements with the US over the last few years.
Did you know that tons of weapons grade plutonium still remains unaccounted for from Russia?
Did you know Russia has a waepon that can create a cold-blast nuclear explosion. This will have all the illustrious damage of the real deal, but without the nuclear fallout or gamma burst radiation?
Did you know that Russia can and does manipulate the weather using this same technology for the goals of disrupting the food supply in America and the melting of the polar caps to get at the gold, silver, oil, and coal deposits?
Did you know this is all being done with the help of American companies eager to start mining and exploring the Siberian Tundra, a know harbor for billions of gallons of heavy crude and natural gas and heavy in mineral deposits?
Now the next time you visit Wal-Mart or raise your Chineese-Made-at-gunpoint American Flags (which should all be thrown to the ground and burnt on site) you will be giving the Chineese the money to buy the ammunition to kill your Mothers. your Fathers, Your Sons, Your Daughters, Your Grandchildren, and your Neighbor down the street.
And round up the rest for those ready made FEMA concentration camps. 31 at last count.
And Back to the US. The united States Repubic ceased to exist in 1860. The Southern States stood up and walked out of Congress in-session. That session never ended. The next time southern representatives entered the halls of congress, they were conquered territory of the US Corporate, due to the "passage" of the 14th Amendment.
Also, in 1871, US incorporated (US, Inc.) owned by: The Bank of England (House of Rothschild). So, now when you enter a courtroom, the Constitution of the united States of America no longer applies. Your unalienable (not to be denied, exist becaue you do, not negotiable) have been traded for civil rights (rights that exist because of legislature, taken back at will)
I do not have, nor do I recogonize civil rights. I have unalienable rights. These rights are not for negotiation, revision, nor debate. Any transgression upon them, will be met with extreme prejudice. The Bill of Rights did not grant me rights. It merely enumerated them, hence the 9th and 10th Amendments.
You are being lied to and don't even know it.
You are being decieved and don't belive it.
You are a zombie of thier mind control and can't see it.
You are a slave and don't even realize it.
The easiest way to keep people slaves, is to make them belive they are free.
But hey, it is easier to believe what the boob-tube and squack-box tells you than it is to actually do some research.
(Bayotanzk you went to private school, you should know what that means.)
Ahh, the Roman Empire is coming back with a vengence and they want their shit back.
With Hawaii clamoring for independence, they may just get it. Just in time for the Chineese takeover of the Pacific rim.
Ahh, the Chineese. They are anxious to kick everyone's ass for the ultimate takeover. Afterall, they have been the punching bag in the Far East for far too long. They will be poised for a complete takeover of the Pacific Rim, especially with Japan and Australlia having removed all guns from thier shores. All the other countries are just China's for the taking.
Stepping stones across the Pacific.
Another thing, China also controls a lttle known waterway called the Panama Canal.
They will be backed by Russia and their electro-magnetic Tesla technology they have been perfecting. Hence the eagerness to disarm so many nukes in treaty agreements with the US over the last few years.
Did you know that tons of weapons grade plutonium still remains unaccounted for from Russia?
Did you know Russia has a waepon that can create a cold-blast nuclear explosion. This will have all the illustrious damage of the real deal, but without the nuclear fallout or gamma burst radiation?
Did you know that Russia can and does manipulate the weather using this same technology for the goals of disrupting the food supply in America and the melting of the polar caps to get at the gold, silver, oil, and coal deposits?
Did you know this is all being done with the help of American companies eager to start mining and exploring the Siberian Tundra, a know harbor for billions of gallons of heavy crude and natural gas and heavy in mineral deposits?
Now the next time you visit Wal-Mart or raise your Chineese-Made-at-gunpoint American Flags (which should all be thrown to the ground and burnt on site) you will be giving the Chineese the money to buy the ammunition to kill your Mothers. your Fathers, Your Sons, Your Daughters, Your Grandchildren, and your Neighbor down the street.
And round up the rest for those ready made FEMA concentration camps. 31 at last count.
And Back to the US. The united States Repubic ceased to exist in 1860. The Southern States stood up and walked out of Congress in-session. That session never ended. The next time southern representatives entered the halls of congress, they were conquered territory of the US Corporate, due to the "passage" of the 14th Amendment.
Also, in 1871, US incorporated (US, Inc.) owned by: The Bank of England (House of Rothschild). So, now when you enter a courtroom, the Constitution of the united States of America no longer applies. Your unalienable (not to be denied, exist becaue you do, not negotiable) have been traded for civil rights (rights that exist because of legislature, taken back at will)
I do not have, nor do I recogonize civil rights. I have unalienable rights. These rights are not for negotiation, revision, nor debate. Any transgression upon them, will be met with extreme prejudice. The Bill of Rights did not grant me rights. It merely enumerated them, hence the 9th and 10th Amendments.
You are being lied to and don't even know it.
You are being decieved and don't belive it.
You are a zombie of thier mind control and can't see it.
You are a slave and don't even realize it.
The easiest way to keep people slaves, is to make them belive they are free.
But hey, it is easier to believe what the boob-tube and squack-box tells you than it is to actually do some research.
(Bayotanzk you went to private school, you should know what that means.)
Ahh, the Roman Empire is coming back with a vengence and they want their shit back.
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