US MILITARY ACTION IN IRAQ Y or N?
by Mugzy » Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:09 am
Originally posted by BloodBudda
Did you know that Russia can and does manipulate the weather using this same technology for the goals of disrupting the food supply in America and the melting of the polar caps to get at the gold, silver, oil, and coal deposits?
You are being lied to and don't even know it.
You are being decieved and don't belive it.
You are a zombie of thier mind control and can't see it.
You are a slave and don't even realize it.
Don't forget your tin foil hat so the aliens can't read your mind
by bayotanzk » Fri Mar 21, 2003 12:31 pm
THIS GUY MUST BE TOUCHED. HE IS WAY BEYOND WORDS. I NEVER IMAGINED THAT THEY WOULD LET PATEINTS OF MENTAL INSTITUTIONS INTERNET ACCESS!
486 dx 50 -32 megs ram -8 meg vid card -120 meg HD -14"vga monitor, dos 5.0
- BloodBudda
by BloodBudda » Fri Mar 21, 2003 6:12 pm
The Illuminati, by 1860 hadn't yet infiltrated the whole of the US government, just key areas. You must understand that the newer version of the Illuminati was created in May of 1776, as the behedst of the Jesuits who regained their stature in the 1500's. (Remember: The Reformations of the 1600's removed the Pope and his Priests from their pulprits of power, for now absolution could be found in the Bible. The common man no longer needed them. The Vatican and the Jesuits were and are a little pissed about all of that lost tribute and control. You would think that they would be working to get it back, wouldn't you? These events also marked the end of the dark ages and the beginning of the Reniassance)
They only needed to get a foothold, which they did with Lincolon. Lincolon was not an abolitionist. His job was to ensure that the states were to absolved of thier ability to leave the union. The issue of slavery was used midway through the civil war to garner international support. He gave control over the money supply to the money changers, which they finalized their takeover in 1933 with the "passage" of their banking bill creating the Fed. Read the Creature from Jeckyl Island.
".. we conclude that the [Federal] Reserve Banks are not federal ... but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations ... without day to day direction from the federal government." * 9th Circuit Court in Lewis v. United States, June 24, 1982
In 1929, the Military of the US was still under control of the Republic. This was until 1953, the views of the Military along with the entire country changed to Democracy, thus Communism.
I charge that any of our "leaders" making the world safe for democracy are noting more than shells, controlled in the background by any number of secret orginizations, all answerable to Cardinal Spellman in New York, head of the American Arm of the Jesuits.
When FDR removed the gold out of circulation, the common law (law of substance, Constitution) disappeared along with it. Since this government can only operate under Admiralty Law (contractual) or Common Law (substance), this created a void.
The void was filled with the PRIVATELY ISSUED money of the Fed. The Fed is not owned nor controlled by the Government. Therefore unconstitutional. This money was secured in place by HJR 192, which made it against public policy to pay any debt using gold or silver, or even FED notes, only discarging of debt was (still is) allowed. Look it up.
This contract is still in place with the Soverign Americans, you just have to enable your account, with the help of the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code, the oldest most codified law on the planet).
BTW: the law of the land in this country in not the Constitution. It is the Uniform Commercial Code. You must enact your rights to the common law (Constitution) BEFORE any plea is made in any courtroom in America. Plus you must be able to properly defend your positon.
And yes, paper money was used in the US for most if its beginning history. The gold clause ensured that only so much could be printed, afterall only so much gold and silver exists on this planet. The abolition of the gold standard made it possible for the Fed to bring in fractional reserves to increase the amount of money in circulation, a virtually unlimited supply, backed by air.
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." * Thomas Jefferson
(gotta love him. even though he wasn't perfect)
Thus $100 becomes $1000 under 10% fractional reserve.
IE: $100 deposited only $10 needs to be kept so $90 can be loaned. That $90 deposited, keep $9, loan $81, and so on. Do the math from there. The gold standard eliminated that, but thanks the Sen Aldrich and the money changers, 1933 ended our ability to keep our money supply in check.
"If all bank loans were paid ... there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation. We are absolutely without a permanent money system." * Robert Hemphill, Federal Reserve Bank in Atlanta, in foreword to "100% Money" by Irving Fisher
As far as the income tax:
" Your income tax is 100 percent voluntary tax, and your liquor tax is 100 percent enforced tax. Now, the situation is as different as night and day..." * Dwight E. Avis, former head of the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax Division of the IRS, testifying before a House Ways and Means subcommittee in 1953
"Maybe we ought to see that every person who gets a tax return receives a copy of the Communist Manifesto with it so he can see what's happening to him." * T. Coleman Andrews, Commissioner of IRS, May 25, 1956 in U.S. News & World Report
That should say enough. Besides, the 16th Amendment placed income tax into the bracket of indirect tax which is where it belongs. supreme Court ruled on this a thousand times. However, no amendment may be contridicatory to any previous amendment, something else the supreme Court ruled upon a thousand times, thus the income tax can not be levied against individuals for it would be direct tax, only corporations could have a income tax placed against them and then only from taxable sources.
"From whatever source derived", does not mean every single source of income or else this would apply to income earned by Chineese in China or South Africans in South Africa. The source itself must be taxable in order to qualify as a source for taxation purposes.
Secion 861 of the IRS code (Title 26 CFR) proves that only sources outside the US can be taxed. You are not nor have you ever been liable for the income tax. It is simply Theft by Deception.
There is video that demonstrates this at http://www.theftbydeception.com by Larken Rose. Get his PDF report here: http://www.taxableincome.net/report/TI_15Apr02.pdf
I stand by my remarks that this country is no longer a country of the people, by the people, and for the people.
I stand by my remarks that our "leaders" (save Ron Paul, R TX) are crooks and cronies.
I stand by remarks that our military used to be taught the difference of a republic and a democracy and represented the former.
I stand by my remarks that this war is a farce for the protection of Israel, not in the best interests of the united States, for the process of bringing about the prophesies of the Bible.
I understand that you all do not wish to believe what I write. That is understandable. You would then have to face the reality that you are being duped, deceived, and manipulated. You would have to re-think all that you hold to be true. I also understand that people use humor, sarcasm, and put-downs when they are either fearful, upset, bewilderd or confused.
Prove me wrong. Put up or shut up.
Heaven help me, I hope I am wrong. I will eat all the crow in the world if I am.
However, if I am right, what are the ramifications? And will you be prepared or will you continue to hold to these myths you have about America being the land of the free and home of the brave? Or will you finally see the transformation into the land of the sheep and home of the slave?
BTW: For all you peeps out there who don't believe that the Russians have these weapons, I have the reports. I will send them to you if you wish.
You can now return to your regularly scheduled CIA programming.
They only needed to get a foothold, which they did with Lincolon. Lincolon was not an abolitionist. His job was to ensure that the states were to absolved of thier ability to leave the union. The issue of slavery was used midway through the civil war to garner international support. He gave control over the money supply to the money changers, which they finalized their takeover in 1933 with the "passage" of their banking bill creating the Fed. Read the Creature from Jeckyl Island.
".. we conclude that the [Federal] Reserve Banks are not federal ... but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations ... without day to day direction from the federal government." * 9th Circuit Court in Lewis v. United States, June 24, 1982
In 1929, the Military of the US was still under control of the Republic. This was until 1953, the views of the Military along with the entire country changed to Democracy, thus Communism.
I charge that any of our "leaders" making the world safe for democracy are noting more than shells, controlled in the background by any number of secret orginizations, all answerable to Cardinal Spellman in New York, head of the American Arm of the Jesuits.
When FDR removed the gold out of circulation, the common law (law of substance, Constitution) disappeared along with it. Since this government can only operate under Admiralty Law (contractual) or Common Law (substance), this created a void.
The void was filled with the PRIVATELY ISSUED money of the Fed. The Fed is not owned nor controlled by the Government. Therefore unconstitutional. This money was secured in place by HJR 192, which made it against public policy to pay any debt using gold or silver, or even FED notes, only discarging of debt was (still is) allowed. Look it up.
This contract is still in place with the Soverign Americans, you just have to enable your account, with the help of the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code, the oldest most codified law on the planet).
BTW: the law of the land in this country in not the Constitution. It is the Uniform Commercial Code. You must enact your rights to the common law (Constitution) BEFORE any plea is made in any courtroom in America. Plus you must be able to properly defend your positon.
And yes, paper money was used in the US for most if its beginning history. The gold clause ensured that only so much could be printed, afterall only so much gold and silver exists on this planet. The abolition of the gold standard made it possible for the Fed to bring in fractional reserves to increase the amount of money in circulation, a virtually unlimited supply, backed by air.
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." * Thomas Jefferson
(gotta love him. even though he wasn't perfect)
Thus $100 becomes $1000 under 10% fractional reserve.
IE: $100 deposited only $10 needs to be kept so $90 can be loaned. That $90 deposited, keep $9, loan $81, and so on. Do the math from there. The gold standard eliminated that, but thanks the Sen Aldrich and the money changers, 1933 ended our ability to keep our money supply in check.
"If all bank loans were paid ... there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation. We are absolutely without a permanent money system." * Robert Hemphill, Federal Reserve Bank in Atlanta, in foreword to "100% Money" by Irving Fisher
As far as the income tax:
" Your income tax is 100 percent voluntary tax, and your liquor tax is 100 percent enforced tax. Now, the situation is as different as night and day..." * Dwight E. Avis, former head of the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax Division of the IRS, testifying before a House Ways and Means subcommittee in 1953
"Maybe we ought to see that every person who gets a tax return receives a copy of the Communist Manifesto with it so he can see what's happening to him." * T. Coleman Andrews, Commissioner of IRS, May 25, 1956 in U.S. News & World Report
That should say enough. Besides, the 16th Amendment placed income tax into the bracket of indirect tax which is where it belongs. supreme Court ruled on this a thousand times. However, no amendment may be contridicatory to any previous amendment, something else the supreme Court ruled upon a thousand times, thus the income tax can not be levied against individuals for it would be direct tax, only corporations could have a income tax placed against them and then only from taxable sources.
"From whatever source derived", does not mean every single source of income or else this would apply to income earned by Chineese in China or South Africans in South Africa. The source itself must be taxable in order to qualify as a source for taxation purposes.
Secion 861 of the IRS code (Title 26 CFR) proves that only sources outside the US can be taxed. You are not nor have you ever been liable for the income tax. It is simply Theft by Deception.
There is video that demonstrates this at http://www.theftbydeception.com by Larken Rose. Get his PDF report here: http://www.taxableincome.net/report/TI_15Apr02.pdf
I stand by my remarks that this country is no longer a country of the people, by the people, and for the people.
I stand by my remarks that our "leaders" (save Ron Paul, R TX) are crooks and cronies.
I stand by remarks that our military used to be taught the difference of a republic and a democracy and represented the former.
I stand by my remarks that this war is a farce for the protection of Israel, not in the best interests of the united States, for the process of bringing about the prophesies of the Bible.
I understand that you all do not wish to believe what I write. That is understandable. You would then have to face the reality that you are being duped, deceived, and manipulated. You would have to re-think all that you hold to be true. I also understand that people use humor, sarcasm, and put-downs when they are either fearful, upset, bewilderd or confused.
Prove me wrong. Put up or shut up.
Heaven help me, I hope I am wrong. I will eat all the crow in the world if I am.
However, if I am right, what are the ramifications? And will you be prepared or will you continue to hold to these myths you have about America being the land of the free and home of the brave? Or will you finally see the transformation into the land of the sheep and home of the slave?
BTW: For all you peeps out there who don't believe that the Russians have these weapons, I have the reports. I will send them to you if you wish.
You can now return to your regularly scheduled CIA programming.
- Ralph Wiggum
by Ralph Wiggum » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:39 pm
If your point in the middle is that no amendment to the Constitution can contravene a prior article or amendment to the Constitution you're absolutely wrong. Show me one of these many cases you refer to holding otherwise.
I notice that you don't really come up with anything like authority for your argument that the government can't make anything other than gold or silver legal tender. All you do is rail against the fractional reserve system. I can't imagine how you think finance is supposed to work if all of the money in a bank is sitting in the bank. Would there be any loans in your world? Besides that, you go on about "$100 deposited only $10 needs to be kept so $90 can be loaned" but you don't explain how that hurts anyone.
I assume you don't file income tax returns given all the "law" on your side? If so you ought to think twice about it and maybe read Lonsdale v. United States, 919 F.2d 1440, 1448 (10th Cir. 1990).
I notice that you don't really come up with anything like authority for your argument that the government can't make anything other than gold or silver legal tender. All you do is rail against the fractional reserve system. I can't imagine how you think finance is supposed to work if all of the money in a bank is sitting in the bank. Would there be any loans in your world? Besides that, you go on about "$100 deposited only $10 needs to be kept so $90 can be loaned" but you don't explain how that hurts anyone.
I assume you don't file income tax returns given all the "law" on your side? If so you ought to think twice about it and maybe read Lonsdale v. United States, 919 F.2d 1440, 1448 (10th Cir. 1990).
- BloodBudda
by BloodBudda » Fri Mar 21, 2003 8:42 pm
With a fractional reserve system, the bank can loan many times the amount of money it actually has.
All the money in the US is loaned into existence by the Fed to the US. This money is then distrubuted to member reserve banks for general public use.
Say a sheet of notes (BTW: note is a promise to pay. FED Notes are corporate promises to pay, hense worthless) costs $2.00 to print. Say the face value is $100. The sheet of notes has 20 $100 face value notes or $2000 of face value but only cost $2.00 to print.
The Fed then loans the $2000 to the US corporate AT FACE VALUE. A hell of a profit. But wait it gets better. The Fed then charges interest on the notes.
The notes are now no longer money, since they no longer hold value. They represent debt, they were loaned nito existence. The loan can never be payed off.
The fractional banking systems allows a bank to loan out that "money" over and over. Each and every time you use a Fed Note, you increase the Public Debt. So, every time a person gets a loan in this country, the Public Debt increases with every "payment" because you can not pay a debt with a debt. That is basic accounting. The only way to decrease the debt is through discharge (see HJR 192, 1933)
With the country in "supposed bankruptcy" the powers that be now control our "leaders" buy threatening to "call in the loan" and demand a payment, which can never happen. Thus we have war. A war to save and defend Israel. Although, I don't believe many of our "leaders" need that coersion.
About the gold issue. No one in their right mind would carry $1000 worth of gold or silver. It would be cumbersome, not to mention the problems of making change and such. Paper money printed, used to represent gold or silver deposits.
The "paper money" could be redeemed at ANY bank or depository for the equivalent gold or silver, standards set by Congress. Go try that at your local Bank of America, especially with a dollar. Now, from I understand, I believe you can still do this at a Federal Reserve Bank, but I'm not sure if the 1953 decree that silver certs would no longer be honored, put a stop to that.
SEE http://www.norfed.org for real money.
All the money in the US is loaned into existence by the Fed to the US. This money is then distrubuted to member reserve banks for general public use.
Say a sheet of notes (BTW: note is a promise to pay. FED Notes are corporate promises to pay, hense worthless) costs $2.00 to print. Say the face value is $100. The sheet of notes has 20 $100 face value notes or $2000 of face value but only cost $2.00 to print.
The Fed then loans the $2000 to the US corporate AT FACE VALUE. A hell of a profit. But wait it gets better. The Fed then charges interest on the notes.
The notes are now no longer money, since they no longer hold value. They represent debt, they were loaned nito existence. The loan can never be payed off.
The fractional banking systems allows a bank to loan out that "money" over and over. Each and every time you use a Fed Note, you increase the Public Debt. So, every time a person gets a loan in this country, the Public Debt increases with every "payment" because you can not pay a debt with a debt. That is basic accounting. The only way to decrease the debt is through discharge (see HJR 192, 1933)
With the country in "supposed bankruptcy" the powers that be now control our "leaders" buy threatening to "call in the loan" and demand a payment, which can never happen. Thus we have war. A war to save and defend Israel. Although, I don't believe many of our "leaders" need that coersion.
About the gold issue. No one in their right mind would carry $1000 worth of gold or silver. It would be cumbersome, not to mention the problems of making change and such. Paper money printed, used to represent gold or silver deposits.
The "paper money" could be redeemed at ANY bank or depository for the equivalent gold or silver, standards set by Congress. Go try that at your local Bank of America, especially with a dollar. Now, from I understand, I believe you can still do this at a Federal Reserve Bank, but I'm not sure if the 1953 decree that silver certs would no longer be honored, put a stop to that.
SEE http://www.norfed.org for real money.
by bayotanzk » Fri Mar 21, 2003 9:45 pm
BloodBudda states:
With the country in "supposed bankruptcy" the powers that be now control our "leaders" buy threatening to "call in the loan" and demand a payment, which can never happen. Thus we have war. A war to save and defend Israel. Although, I don't believe many of our "leaders" need that coersion.
I missed the part about how Israel got worked into this stuff!
With the country in "supposed bankruptcy" the powers that be now control our "leaders" buy threatening to "call in the loan" and demand a payment, which can never happen. Thus we have war. A war to save and defend Israel. Although, I don't believe many of our "leaders" need that coersion.
I missed the part about how Israel got worked into this stuff!
486 dx 50 -32 megs ram -8 meg vid card -120 meg HD -14"vga monitor, dos 5.0
- MeatShield
by MeatShield » Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:32 pm
I am beginning to feel that this blood dude is copying and pasting from a separate website or forum.. I hope. For one to put together this much crap at one time needs much 
Also notice how blood does not directly attack any of us other posters like Anton and Keekano loves to do.
Hmm, research time!!!
Also notice how blood does not directly attack any of us other posters like Anton and Keekano loves to do.
Hmm, research time!!!
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