Completely Off-topic! Same-sex marriage.

[JimmyTango]

Originally posted by Folic_Acid
You called Ralph Wiggum "damn ignorant and biased"

Huh? I never did such a thing. In fact, it was not even to a specific person.

So now I am calling people stupid, and specificly Ralph? Ok, the Simpsons character is slow, true.

[Folic_Acid]

Originally posted by JimmyTango
Huh? I never did such a thing. In fact, it was not even to a specific person.

So now I am calling people stupid, and specificly Ralph? Ok, the Simpsons character is slow, true.

Well, I suppose if you want to be technical, you were actually calling the "smart people who disagree with you" "damn ignorant and biased." It's not directly at Ralph personally, but encompasses him by implication, as he is a smart person who disagrees with you. Of course, I also am a smart person who disagrees with you, so I also have been called "damn ignorant and biased."

The central point remains.

Well, for my part, I'm done with this. My opinions on the actual subject of this thread have been stated, and no purpose is served by showing wit to the witless.

[JimmyTango]

Originally posted by Folic_Acid
Well, I suppose if you want to be technical, you were actually calling the "smart people who disagree with you" "damn ignorant and biased." It's not directly at Ralph personally, but encompasses him by implication, as he is a smart person who disagrees with you. Of course, I also am a smart person who disagrees with you, so I also have been called "damn ignorant and biased."

The central point remains.

Well, for my part, I'm done with this. My opinions on the actual subject of this thread have been stated, and no purpose is served by showing wit to the witless.

Nothing technical about it. This was way blown out of proportion. Ralph made a smart comment to me, which I repled with one. That is the best part. Not one of you actually bothered to read the quote my reply was to...

LOOK OUT, END OF THE WORLD, HOW DARE HE COME BACK WITH A SMART COMMENT.

[FarginMofo]

/me breaks out the buttered popcorn.

Who brought the coke?

[JimmyTango]

Sorry, just crack, no coke.

[LeVar Burton]

A little off topic, but I've seen several of you post about how men and women have equal rights. Unless I'm mistaken, this is not true. The Equal Rights Amendment did not pass.

[Colonel Ingus]

Allright Jimmy thanks for taking that the wrong way i wasn't insinuating you were gay I was speaking extemperaniously. Being overly defensive seems to be an issue with you.

And for a guy who didn't like the dictionary definition I put up about the word marriage you certainly seem hot and heavy into literal interpretation now.

Lets try that again shall we?

Marriage according to Merriam Webster's dicitonary
1 a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

Not a whole lot of gray area there is there? Or am I going to be accused of being "ignorant"?

[JimmyTango]

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus
Allright Jimmy thanks for taking that the wrong way i wasn't insinuating you were gay I was speaking extemperaniously. Being overly defensive seems to be an issue with you.

I was joking. I am not married to her, and if I am lucky, never will be.

[JimmyTango]

mar·riage ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mrj)
n.

1 a The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.
b The state of being married; wedlock.
c A common-law marriage.
d A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage.

2 A wedding.

3 A close union: “the most successful marriage of beauty and blood in mainstream comics” (Lloyd Rose).

4 Games. The combination of the king and queen of the same suit, as in pinochle.

Yes, you ignorant little tick.*

*Ignorant in the way I read it in the dictionary. Not menign stupid, dumb, retarded, etc.

*Tick in the way his avatar is the Tick.

*The complete sentence is typed in a good natured way, not a mean, degrading way.

I didn't take Jimmy's comment personally. In fact, while it may seem like I am absolutely against same-sex marriage, I'm not sure that is the case. My main point has always been that it's not a good idea to run around proclaiming new rights and silencing debate. If same-sex marriage is such a good idea, it shouldn't be too hard to bring a majority of people around to your way of thinking. In the meantime, the fact that you think it is a good idea, or even if it were some how empirically shown to be a good idea, doesn't make it a right.

Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
If same-sex marriage is such a good idea, it shouldn't be too hard to bring a majority of people around to your way of thinking.

I politely disagree . . . it took quite a long time to get the majority of people to agree that slavery is wrong . . . or that the world is round . . . or that the selling of Indulgences is wrong. Change is frequently violent and often starts with just one person or a small group of people.

Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
In the meantime, the fact that you think it is a good idea, or even if it were some how empirically shown to be a good idea, doesn't make it a right.

On this, I completely agree. Rights should neither be granted nor revoked lightly. I think we often forget that rights can be revoked as easily as they can be granted.

On this particular issue, however, I would vote "pro-same-sex marriage".

Nothing personal Jimmy But reading some of your (can't think of the right word) really can piss someone off who has a moral and religious background.

[JimmyTango]

Originally posted by Fat Bastard
Nothing personal Jimmy But reading some of your (can't think of the right word) really can piss someone off who has a moral and religious background.

Morals?

Interesting choice of a word.

If your morals are that you are going to single out people for being attracted to the same sex, and tell them they do not have the same rights as people who are straight, then you are missing some very important morals.*

*Your is not used to discribe you personally.

I understand the religious background, but morals? That is telling everyone who thinks they shoudl be able to marry that they have no morals, which to me can be argued the exact opposite.

I see a lot of posts about religion and marriage, how their religion is interlinked with marriage.

Sorry, your belief or religion is not the only one. Heck, people with out faith or religion get married. Should they not be allowed to, since they do not accept Jesus and God in wither the way you do, or do not accept them all together?

Originally posted by Fat Bastard
Nothing personal Jimmy But reading some of your (can't think of the right word) really can piss someone off who has a moral and religious background.

*whisper* ignore

[SavageParrot]

"Judge not lest ye be judged"

"Love thy neighbour as you love yourself"

"compassion"


These and other forgotten phrases of the 'christian' right can be found in the new testament which is available in all bookstores, If you want to read it and misunderstand it to be a lexicon of hate feel free just don't confuse that with morals. Or did you mean another religion?