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by Nofx » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:49 pm
Originally posted by Savant
^start posting them
Hey, you're requesting em, so heres one with you in it:
Heres a transcript taken from a series of screenies. A former semi-regular named Struckdown was being racist and was banned. Fair enough. His friend, Redrum, politely tries to get his friend unbanned, but instead is insulted and kicked by a group of admins that seem to get too much pleasure from kicking this peon.
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Redrum: Who is admin here?
Redrum: Because whoever is banned my friend
Keekanoo: You keep bad company dude
Keekanoo: And it was me. He wants to be racist? He can play solitaire at home.
Redrum: Yea struckdown
Redrum: Dude hes fuckin around
Savant: Uh oh
Keekanoo: Well now he's fucken' pissed off.
Keekanoo: :|
Redrum: Me and him been playing here for like a month now man
Luniticfringe: Server rules: No racisium(sic)...no exceptions
Redrum: Give him another chance bro this server owns
Keekanoo: Doesn't give you the right to be jerks.
Redrum: I'm not
Keekanoo: I'll lift it in a few days.
Redrum: Do you see me bein an ass?
Redrum: I just shut up and play
Luniticfringe: You are now
Keekanoo: !Kick redr
Keekanoo: Notice only a kick...
Keekanoo: He'll be back to earn a temp lol
(A few minutes later, Struckdown enters server)
Struckdown: Yo sorry admin j/p
Keekanoo: !ban struck
(Later, Struckdown enters the server again)
Savant: Damn Struck
Savant: !Ban struck
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Now, am I crazy, or was Redrum being completely polite? If his chatting was irritating, thats what the !mute feature is for. Its little wonder why I never see them on ecgn anymore.
I can also post the transcript of what Ticks and Leeches was saying to me in a 1 on 1 conversation in SPEC CHAT that got him banned for the reason of "respect the server/admins". I guess I missed the memo where we were required to respect admins, and complaints/1 on 1 convo's were grounds for multiple bans.
I also have dozens of screenshots of different admins talking unprovoked shit to me in /pm's. As in they were getting sick of getting killed, but didn't have the balls to say anything in world chat that would ruin their stand-up reputation. So instead they say it in /m. And then they (pretend) to wonder why I don't like some of them.
Yea, so Savant, go ahead and request for any of the items I listed above, or just other screenies in general. I got plenty.
by aphid » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:55 pm
Originally posted by Edogg
it wasnt really a shot at you. Star was confused about why you are bitching so much about a server when she never "sees" you play on it. I gave her the explaination. Granted, it was presented in a smartass fashion, but thats just the way I do things.
That's not what she said. She just asked if I still play as she remembers me in NNC and was wondering if I was the same person. Unless I didn't delve into her mind enough and read her thoughts as to what she really meant like you did?
If you guys don't like the server, aren't there like 100 other ones?? ECGN is like USA... love it or leave it.
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If ECGn sucks so bad, go play somewhere else and stop filling the board with pointless ranting.
If you you don't like the thread, aren't there like 100 other ones?? This thread is like USA... love it or leave it.
If the thread sucks so bad, go post somewhere else and stop filling this thread with pointless ranting.
Just to add too, I don't remember anyone saying anything about ECGN sucking. It's just a few people who do.
EDIT:
i've always been nothing but fair to ALL of u guys
Yes Shipwreck. Sadly you are one of the only admins to be this way.
by ShipWreck » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:56 pm
lol something never change even if i go away:D i've always been nothing but fair to ALL of u guys
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by SkiloDog2000 » Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:57 pm
from here:
just got ban number 2.....and counting
to here:
yup, cant get along its like being conjoined twins one is gay and his boyfriend is coming over and u share one ass.
WTF?
just got ban number 2.....and counting
to here:
yup, cant get along its like being conjoined twins one is gay and his boyfriend is coming over and u share one ass.
WTF?
by DocTrebor » Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:11 pm
Originally posted by Nofx
Hey, you're requesting em, so heres one with you in it:
Heres a transcript taken from a series of screenies. A former semi-regular named Struckdown was being racist and was banned. Fair enough. His friend, Redrum, politely tries to get his friend unbanned, but instead is insulted and kicked by a group of admins that seem to get too much pleasure from kicking this peon.
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Redrum: Who is admin here?
Redrum: Because whoever is banned my friend
Keekanoo: You keep bad company dude
Keekanoo: And it was me. He wants to be racist? He can play solitaire at home.
Redrum: Yea struckdown
Redrum: Dude hes fuckin around
Savant: Uh oh
Keekanoo: Well now he's fucken' pissed off.
Keekanoo: :|
Redrum: Me and him been playing here for like a month now man
Luniticfringe: Server rules: No racisium(sic)...no exceptions
Redrum: Give him another chance bro this server owns
Keekanoo: Doesn't give you the right to be jerks.
Redrum: I'm not
Keekanoo: I'll lift it in a few days.
Redrum: Do you see me bein an ass?
Redrum: I just shut up and play
Luniticfringe: You are now
Keekanoo: !Kick redr
Keekanoo: Notice only a kick...
Keekanoo: He'll be back to earn a temp lol
(A few minutes later, Struckdown enters server)
Struckdown: Yo sorry admin j/p
Keekanoo: !ban struck
(Later, Struckdown enters the server again)
Savant: Damn Struck
Savant: !Ban struck
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Now, am I crazy, or was Redrum being completely polite? If his chatting was irritating, thats what the !mute feature is for. Its little wonder why I never see them on ecgn anymore.
I can also post the transcript of what Ticks and Leeches was saying to me in a 1 on 1 conversation in SPEC CHAT that got him banned for the reason of "respect the server/admins". I guess I missed the memo where we were required to respect admins, and complaints/1 on 1 convo's were grounds for multiple bans.
I also have dozens of screenshots of different admins talking unprovoked shit to me in /pm's. As in they were getting sick of getting killed, but didn't have the balls to say anything in world chat that would ruin their stand-up reputation. So instead they say it in /m. And then they (pretend) to wonder why I don't like some of them.
Yea, so Savant, go ahead and request for any of the items I listed above, or just other screenies in general. I got plenty.
NoFx, not to keep the stone throwing contest going, but I'm sure youre smart enough to understand that unless you take a screenshot no one will believe that this is the complete and uneditied "script" of what occured that day. Bias on your part can easily be proven and this is in no way authentic. I can very well compose the same exact story but with pieces either added or missing thus changing its tone completely. So unless you can provide hard substantial proof that can even begin to corroborate your claims, shut it.
by Savant » Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:14 pm
Very good Upppercut from that perspective it seems harsh and i kinda remember that transaction, any screenies of console? a ban for racism is outta line? Keek mentioned that it would be lifted in a couple days doest seem charitable?
the fact that struckdown came back and was immediately rebanned 2-times because 1rst ban didnt work comes as a shock to you? or would you have let it drift cause he apoligized? my guess is that struckdown would never use a slang term towards any minority face to face for fear of getting knocked-out, just because hes safe in his bedroom shouldnt make him a tough guy.
redrum should have let it drift in my opinion, was being argumentive, but ive seen worse with no kick
there is always more to the story, but you guys know that. try harder
the fact that struckdown came back and was immediately rebanned 2-times because 1rst ban didnt work comes as a shock to you? or would you have let it drift cause he apoligized? my guess is that struckdown would never use a slang term towards any minority face to face for fear of getting knocked-out, just because hes safe in his bedroom shouldnt make him a tough guy.
redrum should have let it drift in my opinion, was being argumentive, but ive seen worse with no kick
there is always more to the story, but you guys know that. try harder
Sal_Monella
- Keekanoo
by Keekanoo » Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:23 pm
Screenshots of public conversations are indeed only half of a potential picture. If I recall correctly I had an ongoing conversation with 'Redrum' in private chat as well. Too, if memory serves correct, we did a name-search on him and his name was used alternately with the other. Which then implies that he might actualy be the other person.
Full bans are not put in place unless circumstances warrent it. If you're seeing someone get banned out of no-where it's because the admins have been doing their homework and tracking the persons name-changes and actions and have finally caught them.
Regarding the Ticks situation, if he wishes to private message me concerning the issue, that's fine. I'm not going to publicly clean laundry for everyone to drool over. That isn't appropriate. I, and several other admins, did feel that a full ban was warrented, regardless. We have some basic rules about tk'ing, bleeding, being racist and such which arn't hard to understand. Being racist gets you instantly banned, the tk'ing and bleeding will get you banned if you show yourself to be a blatant repeat offender. We don't need them at the server.
For those that don't want a clean fun game, rent a server
As for the /kill thing. I'm a player and an admin. As a player I think /kill is cheap. As an admin I listen to what people have to say about it and weigh it up for the server. Frankly most think it's cheap too. Fighting someone who uses /kill to get out of it, especially as they're typically excellant players, is like running a marathon and, just as you're approaching the finishing tape, having someone remove the tape and calling the race void. It's cheap.
Full bans are not put in place unless circumstances warrent it. If you're seeing someone get banned out of no-where it's because the admins have been doing their homework and tracking the persons name-changes and actions and have finally caught them.
Regarding the Ticks situation, if he wishes to private message me concerning the issue, that's fine. I'm not going to publicly clean laundry for everyone to drool over. That isn't appropriate. I, and several other admins, did feel that a full ban was warrented, regardless. We have some basic rules about tk'ing, bleeding, being racist and such which arn't hard to understand. Being racist gets you instantly banned, the tk'ing and bleeding will get you banned if you show yourself to be a blatant repeat offender. We don't need them at the server.
For those that don't want a clean fun game, rent a server
As for the /kill thing. I'm a player and an admin. As a player I think /kill is cheap. As an admin I listen to what people have to say about it and weigh it up for the server. Frankly most think it's cheap too. Fighting someone who uses /kill to get out of it, especially as they're typically excellant players, is like running a marathon and, just as you're approaching the finishing tape, having someone remove the tape and calling the race void. It's cheap.
- VlfPlyer
by VlfPlyer » Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:34 pm
This really needs to be on the Comedy Thread:
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Redrum: Who is admin here?
Redrum: Because whoever [it] is banned my friend
Keekanoo: You keep bad company dude
Keekanoo: And it was me. He wants to be racist? He can play solitaire at home.
Redrum: Yea [he is named] struckdown
Redrum: Dude [struckdown] he's fuckin around
Savant: Uh oh
Keekanoo: Well now he's fucken' pissed off.
Keekanoo: :|
freakin hilarious-
I might told him [struckdown or redrum] to go pound sand. But then I don't have to be resonable and nice.
Who doesn't know by now that the racist BS is not acceptable? I am guessing that struckdrown might have received maybe a warning. Maybe.
Nice to have the screenshots and the words spoken etc. but the context is much much more.
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Redrum: Who is admin here?
Redrum: Because whoever [it] is banned my friend
Keekanoo: You keep bad company dude
Keekanoo: And it was me. He wants to be racist? He can play solitaire at home.
Redrum: Yea [he is named] struckdown
Redrum: Dude [struckdown] he's fuckin around
Savant: Uh oh
Keekanoo: Well now he's fucken' pissed off.
Keekanoo: :|
freakin hilarious-
I might told him [struckdown or redrum] to go pound sand. But then I don't have to be resonable and nice.
Who doesn't know by now that the racist BS is not acceptable? I am guessing that struckdrown might have received maybe a warning. Maybe.
Nice to have the screenshots and the words spoken etc. but the context is much much more.
by aphid » Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:34 pm
Originally posted by Savant
Very good Upppercut from that perspective it seems harsh and i kinda remember that transaction, any screenies of console? a ban for racism is outta line? Keek mentioned that it would be lifted in a couple days doest seem charitable?
Did you read what he said? He wasn't talking about Struckdown. He was talking about why Redrum was kicked. Your whole post is moot aside from this part...
redrum should have let it drift in my opinion, was being argumentive, but ive seen worse with no kick
So basically right here you sugar coated that Keekanoo was wrong for kicking that guy. Nice of you to finally admit something aside from denying it all.
there is always more to the story, but you guys know that. try harder
Oh wait, I gave you credit too quickly.
EDIT:
Originally post by KeekanooScreenshots of public conversations are indeed only half of a potential picture. If I recall correctly I had an ongoing conversation with 'Redrum' in private chat as well. Too, if memory serves correct, we did a name-search on him and his name was used alternately with the other. Which then implies that he might actualy be the other person
You're a liar. It's funny how Savant did not mention this in his post. We both know that you converse with him all the time about things like this.
- Keekanoo
by Keekanoo » Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:46 pm
Aphid, you don't know the whole picture, so please refrain from presenting a piece of a pie and saying "Look, I present you a yummy delicious complete pie."
I only cringe at my use of 'fucken'. Though I was likely extremely annoyed (racism gets me going fast), use of extreme language like that, even to immitate the venaculor of one i'm dealing with, isn't appropriate. For this I appologize to the viewing audience in general
One thing not apparent to anyone but admins is that the bot was not working at that time. We couldn't ban people. The bot treated bans as kicks, nothing more. Still, they looked a lot harsher, thus the 'ban' word was used in extreme circumstances. When Man-at-Arms and Boc upgraded the Beach with a hybrid new bot we were busy beavers catching and snagging in the first few weeks some really nasty tards who'd learned about the bot situation.
Y'know.... tards aside, I enjoy playing the game. Lookin' forward to killin' y'all later And it was getting a bit borring in this rtcw forum.... lol
I only cringe at my use of 'fucken'. Though I was likely extremely annoyed (racism gets me going fast), use of extreme language like that, even to immitate the venaculor of one i'm dealing with, isn't appropriate. For this I appologize to the viewing audience in general
One thing not apparent to anyone but admins is that the bot was not working at that time. We couldn't ban people. The bot treated bans as kicks, nothing more. Still, they looked a lot harsher, thus the 'ban' word was used in extreme circumstances. When Man-at-Arms and Boc upgraded the Beach with a hybrid new bot we were busy beavers catching and snagging in the first few weeks some really nasty tards who'd learned about the bot situation.
Y'know.... tards aside, I enjoy playing the game. Lookin' forward to killin' y'all later
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