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Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:59 pm

Originally posted by Rand0m
rtcw 2 is currently in production, dont know whos making it though. guys who made ET? I'll need a new rig for it though.

download player here

download the interview here

play the video with the player so you can hear it.


you can expect the graphics to be as good as these, or better;

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It was posted awhile back, the possibility of a newly created RTCW2 using the Doom3 engine, and it IS a hog. right up there in requirement with BF2 if not more.

So if your a fan start saving your sheckles now

Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:04 pm

well I always heard it was in production and rumors, and what have you. so a few days ago I finally decided to research it myself. its in the making which makes me happy haha. and I will be saving my pennies for a new rig.

I heard that it wont take too long to make the game because the makers have gone pro with the doom 3 engine. 06 or 07. :D

Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:52 pm

That was really cool Nofx. I never played much with you, but that was a really cool video you made! Well done :) I'd like to make something like that...how do you do something like that? im sure theres programs you need to realrange different videos...

Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:05 pm

Originally posted by Stl Lunatic
That was really cool Nofx. I never played much with you, but that was a really cool video you made! Well done :) I'd like to make something like that...how do you do something like that? im sure theres programs you need to realrange different videos...


I've used Windows Movie Maker to make movies (like my warcraft movie), as it is free and came with my computer. It was kinda basic and slow, but it gets the job done. The Wolf movie was made with VisualStudio 8, which I got for free (was $100 when new), and its more efficient. Both are pretty intuitive, as I was clueless before I tried em.

To capture the vids, get something like Fraps. Takes tons of disk space tho to capture, as maybe 2-3 mins of raw footage takes about a gig.

And we've played against each other more than you've realized :P I don't have a set name (even this one started as an alias, friends from other servers know me as different names).

Thanks for the comments guys!


Edit: And Cavalier, if you ever find out wth theyre using over at that site, let me know. Maybe if its not too complex or works with existing demos, I'd be able to try it out.

Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:32 pm

great movie nofx, didn't see me in there at all, looks like we play at different times, but hey great video

Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:53 pm

Originally posted by Nofx

Edit: And Cavalier, if you ever find out wth theyre using over at that site, let me know. Maybe if its not too complex or works with existing demos, I'd be able to try it out.


Give me a link or description of one the files on own-age.com that you consider good and I'll check it out. The few that I looked at were pretty much the basic quality that everyone has.One thing to consider though, just looking quickly at a few other clips:

A lot of people make their movie from a stationary camera viewpoints as much a possible (ie, a 3rd person view).
The view from the 1st person perspective is either going to require a much higher bitrate or it's going to lose a lot of detail. I assume you're using two pass encoding, with Variable Bit Rate (VBR). The way compression works, it doesn't have store all the information for a picture that has very little changing. For example, a clip of a person sitting and talking would require much less data as very little would change in 90% of the frame, just the persons mouth moving and a little movement of the head typically. A clip of an action packed sequence would require more data as there's stuff flying all over the screen, high amounts of movement and such. In a typical movie there's mostly low motion activity and some high motion activity. VBR goes through and figures out where to use the data total you've alloted to it, using a higher datarate during high motion scenes, lower datarates during low motion scenes. When you make a movie of a videogame from a first person perspective it absolutely maxes out the amount of motion on the screen. Every turn of the head is like having the camerca pan left and right, very quickly. Running down a hall is causing virtually every frame of video to be completely different than the last frame. When you go to a 3rd person view with limited motion of the 'camera' so to speak, the background is staying the same, just a small amount of the screen is changing from the people running around killing, maiming and such. So, it's either higher datarate/bigger file for all 1st person view, or keep the same file size and lose some detail. It's all a trade off.
Also, crucial is source material. The better the source material, the better the encoded about. This is HUGE. Some of the movies you have seen may have been first rendered out 1024x768 with great detail first, then encoded and resized smaller.

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:00 am

So how would I convert my Demos that i have taken so that it can play it in media player / movie maker? Or do i need to record the demo's differently to begin with?

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:11 am

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
Give me a link or description of one the files on own-age.com that you consider good and I'll check it out. The few that I looked at were pretty much the basic quality that everyone has.


Try any of the 'top 10 Most Downloaded Videos'. I've seen most of em, some impresive ones include:


Annihilation video (290mb)
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=660

The Badge (160mb)
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=248

Annihilation is the most popular dl and it is incredible. Personally tho, I love The Badge's editing and effects, and its smaller (and shorter) too. It seems like in all of them too, they are able to rotate the camera, juice up the graphics, remove console, etc. It seems incredible to me that a video with such crisp quality can be so small.

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:15 am

I'll check them out tomorrow, thanks. I edited my above post, so take look when you can.
Good night Nofx

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:23 am

ah so you're uppercut...at least that's the only
name i've known you as where you were a great player
and a chill guy.

I also used a ton of names so i couldn't tell you what
i was using when we used to cross paths everyday...

Great video, good stuff :)

Makes me wish i could play again.

p.s. i'm not the jimmy that got owned in that video ;)

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:57 am

Dude how can you guys sit here all day and talk,,,,,man even i can't do that and im out'a school and working 12 hour days :cry:

Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:36 am

Ha ha I work 5 hour days :D

Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:01 am

That was good.

Anyone got a link to demo Killermike made a while ago (I lost it).

Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:48 am

I made two, and the size = big but it was when I first started learning how to compress videos.

My ECGN video
http://codstrats.pcloadletterwtf.com/videos/ecgntribute.zip

Office Space Trailer (haha, I guess video since I won't be finishing it w/ RtCW)
http://codstrats.pcloadletterwtf.com/videos/ostrailer.zip

Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:11 am

NoFX, great movie man, I love the slow down on the kill on Savant and myself :P Music really gave it a nice touch too.


Mike, yours always gets me :lol:
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