Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:13 am
Good job, thanks!
Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:20 am
Great stuff NoFx!!!
Keep it up!
The links NoFx gave you are quake3 vids. Here's some great looking RTCW vids for ya'll!
Knö or Die:
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=3287
4K Revolution:
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=822
Never say Never (trickjumpvid)
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=797
Infensus the Movie: (with some spectacular trickjumps!)
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=5385
zeroLogic: (CoD)
This video i recommend ALL gamers out there to watch! Among the best i've seen. Watch the "OMG" headshots! What bo(o)tcamp have they been to?
Enjoy!
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=4924
Keep it up!
Originally posted by cavalierlwt
Give me a link or description of one the files on own-age.com that you consider good and I'll check it out.
The links NoFx gave you are quake3 vids. Here's some great looking RTCW vids for ya'll!
Knö or Die:
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=3287
4K Revolution:
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=822
Never say Never (trickjumpvid)
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=797
Infensus the Movie: (with some spectacular trickjumps!)
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=5385
zeroLogic: (CoD)
This video i recommend ALL gamers out there to watch! Among the best i've seen. Watch the "OMG" headshots! What bo(o)tcamp have they been to?
Enjoy!
http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=4924
Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:45 pm
I looked at the one called 'The Badge'
163 MBs, about 6/12 minutes long.
I don't know what they used to 'capture' (Fraps or whatever) but the reason their video looks pretty sharp is the bitrate. The video is 640x480, 25 FPS (frames per second), DIVX 5.0. They are using 3182 Kb/s for their video, 335 Kb/s for their audio (quite a lot for audio actually).
One way to look at quality, to compare different sizes of videos is to look at the number of bits (from the datarate, per second) devoted to each pixel that get's rendered in 1 second.
so, resolution x fps=total pixels.
640x480x25 = 7,680,000 pixels rendered per second.
Divide the datarate (in bits per second, not Kbs) by the total pixels rendered in one second.
3182000/7680000 (its 3182 Kb/s, so it is 3182000 bits per second)
=.414
So, Q=.414, they are averaging .414 bits of data per pixel. More data per pixel mean higher quality.
Your video is 320x240
636 Kb/s for video
I assume 30 FPS
320x240x30 = 2,304,000 pixels rendered per second
datarate/total pixels
636000/2304000
=.276
so Q=.276, you're averaging .276 bits of data per second for each pixel rendered.
Other factors:
They might have a way to render their source video at a higher quality.
For example, they may have some way of rendering it uncompressed (100% perfect quality)
As well as they may have rendered it at 640x480 or better. The more perfect the source, the better the encode.
Using Fraps means the source video is rendered out with Fraps compressions scheme.
compressing material that is already compressed gives lower quality.
They may have just used Fraps, no way of knowing.
A smaller factor, they did use a 3rd person view for the video. Although the camera moves a lot, it's slower, sweeping movements,and some stationary camera shots too. This is a little easier on the encoding, compared to the frantic 1st person view and speed found when playing Beach 24/7. Technically the spectator view is 1st person, but it doesn't spasmodically whip around like the view from an actual player's viewpoint.
Also, final resolution. I'm not sure what decisions the encoder makes when you go with 320x240. Going from a higher resolution to a smaller resolution is fine, but the encoder has to make decisions on what information to throw away and what to keep.
The biggest thing is that datarate though.
As far as editing style, those guys are artists. Can't help you there
163 MBs, about 6/12 minutes long.
I don't know what they used to 'capture' (Fraps or whatever) but the reason their video looks pretty sharp is the bitrate. The video is 640x480, 25 FPS (frames per second), DIVX 5.0. They are using 3182 Kb/s for their video, 335 Kb/s for their audio (quite a lot for audio actually).
One way to look at quality, to compare different sizes of videos is to look at the number of bits (from the datarate, per second) devoted to each pixel that get's rendered in 1 second.
so, resolution x fps=total pixels.
640x480x25 = 7,680,000 pixels rendered per second.
Divide the datarate (in bits per second, not Kbs) by the total pixels rendered in one second.
3182000/7680000 (its 3182 Kb/s, so it is 3182000 bits per second)
=.414
So, Q=.414, they are averaging .414 bits of data per pixel. More data per pixel mean higher quality.
Your video is 320x240
636 Kb/s for video
I assume 30 FPS
320x240x30 = 2,304,000 pixels rendered per second
datarate/total pixels
636000/2304000
=.276
so Q=.276, you're averaging .276 bits of data per second for each pixel rendered.
Other factors:
They might have a way to render their source video at a higher quality.
For example, they may have some way of rendering it uncompressed (100% perfect quality)
As well as they may have rendered it at 640x480 or better. The more perfect the source, the better the encode.
Using Fraps means the source video is rendered out with Fraps compressions scheme.
compressing material that is already compressed gives lower quality.
They may have just used Fraps, no way of knowing.
A smaller factor, they did use a 3rd person view for the video. Although the camera moves a lot, it's slower, sweeping movements,and some stationary camera shots too. This is a little easier on the encoding, compared to the frantic 1st person view and speed found when playing Beach 24/7. Technically the spectator view is 1st person, but it doesn't spasmodically whip around like the view from an actual player's viewpoint.
Also, final resolution. I'm not sure what decisions the encoder makes when you go with 320x240. Going from a higher resolution to a smaller resolution is fine, but the encoder has to make decisions on what information to throw away and what to keep.
The biggest thing is that datarate though.
As far as editing style, those guys are artists. Can't help you there
Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:00 pm
shooter do you know what Knö i Hörn means in English? those guys are really good. that movie was awesome.
Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:36 pm
Originally posted by Rand0m
shooter do you know what Knö i Hörn means in English? those guys are really good. that movie was awesome.
The word "Knö" (i never heard it before! - local slang) is defined in the intro of the film.
"i" = in
"Hörn" is a little town/village or a suburban. Put them together and translate it freely.
"Rumble in Hörn"?? perhaps.
EDIT--Yeah they are among the best teams out there. KiH as the Infensus guys are all Swedish players!
Have you seen the zeroLogic vid yet??
Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:43 pm
Originally posted by S.Shooter
The word "Knö" (i never heard it before! - local slang) is defined in the intro of the film.
"i" = in
"Hörn" is a little town/village or a suburban. Put them together and translate it freely.
"Rumble in Hörn"?? perhaps.
--Yeah they are the best team out there. KiH is old Infensus - Quakecon winners.. All Swedish players!
Have you seen the zeroLogic vid yet??
Im downloading most of the videos you posted as we speak, about to watch the 4k one. Is it me, or are the top players usually European? Or not American haha. There are good American players dont get me wrong, but damn those Europeans are good.
the download mirror for the zerologic video is down i think
Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:32 pm
Haha yea I remember the Infensus one, it was great. Its been a looong time since I've seen it, but if I rememeber correctly, I really liked it cuz it was mostly footage from clan matches, so the ownage was especially impressive. Haven't seen those others, but I'll check em out one day. And again, thanks for the input everyone, appreciate it.
Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:06 pm
cant get the infensus one to work, what do i need to play it?
Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:19 pm
Euro's are overrated. Dr.'s all the way!
Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:18 pm
I'll make a video in a bit...that has cooler stuff 
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:57 pm
Wow, NOFX, you've brought out the Spielberg in everyone!
Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:15 am
Originally posted by Conscious*
I'll make a video in a bit...that has cooler stuff
yea, but will it be of you doing the cooler stuff??
Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:18 am
Very nice movie NOFX, thanks for giving us the privilege to watch it.
If you guys want to see Spielberg then i recommend this movie by saladin:
LINK: http://files.filefront.com/meloncholy/;3790103;;/fileinfo.html
Its 322mb but easily one of the top 5 RtcW movies ever so its worth it!
If you guys want to see Spielberg then i recommend this movie by saladin:
MELONCHOLY
This is the full length frag video featuring the talented RtCW player, common.
Past clans include Iron Warriors, Global Assault Team, Arabian Goggles, and Splash My Nuts.
All footage comes from practices or offical matches, with about 80% coming from actual matches.
MUSIC LIST:
Crystal Method - "Starting Over"
Dave Matthews Band - "Two Step"
Moby - "Extreme Ways"
Audioslave - "Show Me How To Live"
Radiohead - "Polyethylene"
http://www.pwned.nl - "Owned By Myg0t"
LINK: http://files.filefront.com/meloncholy/;3790103;;/fileinfo.html
Its 322mb but easily one of the top 5 RtcW movies ever so its worth it!
Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:30 am
Originally posted by MoJo
Very nice movie NOFX, thanks for giving us the privilege to watch it.
If you guys want to see Spielberg then i recommend this movie by saladin:
LINK: http://files.filefront.com/meloncholy/;3790103;;/fileinfo.html
Its 322mb but easily one of the top 5 RtcW movies ever so its worth it!
dling now
do these pro-gamers just play the game thats popular at the momeny, or do they stick to one game for awhile? anyone know
Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:24 am
Hey I made a video on Windows movie maker...So now how do I put it on a dvd/cd so that i can play it on a normla dvd player?