is it true....?

[King]

i went lookin to the RS forums to see whats goin on there... didn't see Doc post about this debacle there although he did post today on somefin else.

[FUEL]

Originally posted by Sabres
Fuel!!! no way!!

Yep! It's me baby!

Seriously, Doc is my clanmate and until I/we hear from him I'm not passing judgement on him. I've known admins that go out and test hacks so they can learn exactly what to look for. If he's done this and left a file on the PC and this tool caught it....well that is entirely possible.

[Radram]

oh he posted on it in the Members only section. but i wont say anything else until its all final.

Originally posted by FUEL
Yep! It's me baby!

Seriously, Doc is my clanmate and until I/we hear from him I'm not passing judgement on him. I've known admins that go out and test hacks so they can learn exactly what to look for. If he's done this and left a file on the PC and this tool caught it....well that is entirely possible.

Hahahahaha
Line up ECGN Dupes, bend over here it comes!!!
Say Pal what about when players want to test, oh say the Mombot , so they install it and run as Create Server and accidently miss a DLL deleting it, and then are Perma Banned
by PB is that OK?
: )
hahaha
Waldo

Originally posted by SavageParrot
Yep it's true. He's been perm banned and admin has been removed.

[PsB:4573 V003B4389] d62aea63c2c14ec2f12b7103e9a78158 "^0|^7RS^0|^1Internet_Explorer" "146.201.162.205" MD5TOOL #9002 (icehook.dll)

[PsB:1287 V001447FC] 29ef695d0a05893ad4f03855acfc3f2c "^7M^0ys74r^7Y" "65.35.172.107" WALLHACK #60224

You let us all down doc

Savage
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Savage said
Man you are not very bright, that wasn't me saying I made a server to hack on that was me paraphrasing you. I have never downloaded any hacks and I don't intend on anytime in the future either...

I thought it was obvious enough but hey I'll go back and add speech marks is that will help you keep up...
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Better hit that thread Savage and make with the delete button lest you make a hypocrite out of yourself soon because its coming
: )
Waldo
Thats OK I knew you were lying in those posts anyway
hehe
Wow this is entertaining!

Ears to you tr3b! I mean Cheers to you ya hacker.

[Savant]

^ZING

[JimmyTango]

I don't know what happened, I do not even play this game(way old and too been there done that).

But Waldo, WTF? You sure come off as some extremely young kid who can't put a sentence or a paragraph together if your life depended on it.

[Trash Can]

Wow, Waldo hasn't posted in about an hour. Must be a good episode of Oprah!

I do hope some people are enjoying themselves ...

[DocTrebor]

OK I was not going to respond until I got confirmation back from punkbuster; however, given the overwhelming need of a post here it is, readers digest version.


I am not nor have I ever been a hacker. I have done everything within my power to keep these types out. The original ban was from testing it, as everyone all knows and remembers the drama that surrounded that situation awhile back. That put me on the mbl, i didnt even know because i only played on the beach. When we started using thee mbl I had to get a new key. From the original incident I never dled or "tested" a hack for any reason knowing one, that i could use the readme to learn and 2 its better left to pb to see how it works. The past incident was fully known by admining staff.

The kick the other night was a kick from the md5 tool with the reason, md5tool mismatch icehook.dll. The icehook is a dll part of the icebot program, a bot used in ENEMY TERRITORY. I had in on my computer from long ago because on our enemy territory server PB is not run and I would view suspicious demos with it for confirmation of activity. Apparantly remnants of the bot were left in my wolf folders (much of my et and wolf stuff is in the same location). The md5 tool recognized the dll, even though there was nothing running, and kicked me for it. As you can tell, since the message was MISMATCH, well it speaks for itself. In short I was kicked for having remnants of a ET bot on my computer (a bot used for admin purposes ONLY).

I immediatly emailed punkbuster after the incident giving the details surrounding the incident. I was not going to post until after I received confirmation of the appeal...but I realize this will take awhile (im not even on the mbl yet). I can more than guarantee it will be over turned because even though the bot is for a quake 3 engine, it is for enemy territory and nothing else.

In conclusion, Savant you were exactly right when u said especially I wouldnt be stupid enough to do something like this. Logically...would I, a admin and rep of the server...with all the drama about hacks lately come on to the server, with MAN AT ARMS right there...and run a hack? Esp on a GAME like RTCW? No.

Now I know that after my post there will be a lot of mudslinging and questions...prob most from waldo. I will more than likely not respond until I think it is one: appropriate two: a serious question or three: i ahve the response from pb.


I did not hack, I do not hack, and anyone who knows me will know that.

[Rand0m]

dude your a freaking hacker. leave now before the admin bans you. I say we ban you from the forums too, you freaking hacker!





the entertainment was fun while it lasted, now someone please take care of waldo. perhaps maybe evan?

Originally posted by JimmyTango
I don't know what happened, I do not even play this game(way old and too been there done that).

But Waldo, WTF? You sure come off as some extremely young kid who can't put a sentence or a paragraph together if your life depended on it.

Yea you just happened to hear theres some drama going on around here, Im sure its all over the net by now, maybe you read about it in the NYT.....I mean not playing the game and all, how else would you hear.....so you figured you'd stop on by and find out what all the hub-bub was about, right Jimmy?
hahahaha OK sure I buy that!
: )
There are a lot of inside jokes going on in my posts so that may be the problem....or...Im just a kid and an idiot...either or are OK with me
hehehe
Reinstate Doc because Waldo said.........
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Thats the trouble with PB, there is no transparency, none of the players know jack about what really is going on with hax, so Dling Mombot to see what it does seems perfectly legitimate to me and Id never apologize for it, curiousity is human nature
I should have been more cautious deleting the files though
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Right Savage?
hahaha
: )
Waldo

[Sabres]

I'm so lost. Too bad I can't tell sarcasm from realism over the internet...

[FUEL]

Originally posted by Waldo
Hahahahaha
Line up ECGN Dupes, bend over here it comes!!!
Say Pal what about when players want to test, oh say the Mombot , so they install it and run as Create Server and accidently miss a DLL deleting it, and then are Perma Banned
by PB is that OK?
: )
hahaha
Waldo

Well...PAL!!!!,
I never said that I agree with ANYONE installing a hack. Fuel's Rule #1 on hacking is don't even take the chance. Don't download one, don't install one, don't use one. While I appreciate an admin being "all he can be", they (and we) have to understand that a certain risk comes with testing a hack. Things like this have a good chance of happening. If Doc says that this is what happened, then I believe him.

[SavageParrot]

Originally posted by Waldo
Better hit that thread Savage and make with the delete button lest you make a hypocrite out of yourself soon because its coming

It ain't coming. I will never hack.