is it true....?

Originally posted by |RS|DocTrebor
OK I was not going to respond until I got confirmation back from punkbuster; however, given the overwhelming need of a post here it is, readers digest version.


I am not nor have I ever been a hacker. I have done everything within my power to keep these types out. The original ban was from testing it, as everyone all knows and remembers the drama that surrounded that situation awhile back. That put me on the mbl, i didnt even know because i only played on the beach. When we started using thee mbl I had to get a new key. From the original incident I never dled or "tested" a hack for any reason knowing one, that i could use the readme to learn and 2 its better left to pb to see how it works. The past incident was fully known by admining staff.

The kick the other night was a kick from the md5 tool with the reason, md5tool mismatch icehook.dll. The icehook is a dll part of the icebot program, a bot used in ENEMY TERRITORY. I had in on my computer from long ago because on our enemy territory server PB is not run and I would view suspicious demos with it for confirmation of activity. Apparantly remnants of the bot were left in my wolf folders (much of my et and wolf stuff is in the same location). The md5 tool recognized the dll, even though there was nothing running, and kicked me for it. As you can tell, since the message was MISMATCH, well it speaks for itself. In short I was kicked for having remnants of a ET bot on my computer (a bot used for admin purposes ONLY).

I immediatly emailed punkbuster after the incident giving the details surrounding the incident. I was not going to post until after I received confirmation of the appeal...but I realize this will take awhile (im not even on the mbl yet). I can more than guarantee it will be over turned because even though the bot is for a quake 3 engine, it is for enemy territory and nothing else.

In conclusion, Savant you were exactly right when u said especially I wouldnt be stupid enough to do something like this. Logically...would I, a admin and rep of the server...with all the drama about hacks lately come on to the server, with MAN AT ARMS right there...and run a hack? Esp on a GAME like RTCW? No.

Now I know that after my post there will be a lot of mudslinging and questions...prob most from waldo. I will more than likely not respond until I think it is one: appropriate two: a serious question or three: i ahve the response from pb.


I did not hack, I do not hack, and anyone who knows me will know that.

Hahahahahaha
Way to go!
Im sure the gullibles will buy all that outright, Doc
Congrats!
Testings OK?
Wow Im glad to hear that!
Ya know the same thing happened to myself, perfectly understandable no?
hahahaha
: )
Waldo

[cavalierlwt]

Originally posted by Waldo
Yea you just happened to hear theres some drama going on around here, Im sure its all over the net by now, maybe you read about it in the NYT.....I mean not playing the game and all, how else would you hear.....so you figured you'd stop on by and find out what all the hub-bub was about, right Jimmy?
hahahaha OK sure I buy that!

We notice all the drama because the 'hot' threads stay at the top of the list under 'Active Discussions'
Yeah, the inside jokes are confusing, but that's ok, I love a good mystery.

Oops sorry Fuel
Savage
When I said its coming, what I meant was coming was your defence of Doc using the exact same reasons I gave you in defence of myself.
Except with me it was "the lamest excuse you ever heard"
Go check the thread on Ganja
: )
Waldo

[SavageParrot]

Originally posted by Waldo
Uhhhhh Savage, you forget to change your handle back from Fuel

Nope that is an entirely different person.

[Radram]

i thought Fuel was Texas Pete, Savage is Zog in disguise, and I am Keek?!?!?!

Originally posted by FUEL
Well...PAL!!!!,
I never said that I agree with ANYONE installing a hack. Fuel's Rule #1 on hacking is don't even take the chance. Don't download one, don't install one, don't use one. While I appreciate an admin being "all he can be", they (and we) have to understand that a certain risk comes with testing a hack. Things like this have a good chance of happening. If Doc says that this is what happened, then I believe him.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!
Sheeple
The mighty admins shall tell us all we must need to know!
Never question the word of the mighty admin!
Let us all put our heads in the sand!
Trust the words of the mighty admin!
We should never try and see how these Hacks and Bots work
by Dling them and trying them ourselves as Create Server
Trust in the mighty admin and we the Tards shall be led to the promised land
Ignorance is Bliss!
Amen!
: )
Waldo
shhhhhhhhhhhhh.......soto voce........ahhh but who's watching the admins.....after all we the players MUST remain blissfully ignorant?
Oh my God what if the Admin is cheating?
?????
sheeeeeeeeeeesh!
They should make the above the servers official prayer
Say it at 6 am before the first round

[Sabres]

Originally posted by FUEL
Fuel's Rule #1 on hacking is don't even take the chance. Don't download one, don't install one, don't use one.

I like that right there. That's worth saving.

I would never hack and cheat......hahaha.........
He only cheats at ET now!
and he would never DL a hack to see how they work "better to leave that to PB" (good little sheeple)except HACKS for ET another PB game...
and PB while scanning RTCW a totally different game accidently scanned his ET folders as well....imagine that...and found icehook.dll...ahhhh he views suspicious demos with this HACK
Hows that work viewing demos with a HACK...oooops I forgot we lowly Tards should never question the mighty admins about hacks, let me say the ECGN prayer and flaggelate myself with a leather strap.
BRB
Ouch Im Back!
So Doc did this ET based hack work in RTCW when you migrated it over to your RTCW folders and fired up the game thinking it would be undetectable?
hmmmmmm?
Anyone want to do a Google on icehook.dll
Why bother
Yes you are on the MBL Doc, that Text File doesnt get updated very often
: )
Waldo
Honestly, I hope they reinstate you Doc, (Im sure they will as well) and you know thats true, as you know how much I hate seeing people get kicked and banned from the server, why I was even permabanned by you yourself for ragging your ass about just this very thing, for strangers yet, ....right?... But man you sure do have a comeuppance coming!
So excuse me, while I kiss the sky!
This post is full of lame excuses anyone will be able to pick apart quite easily
: )
Waldo

The kick the other night was a kick from the md5 tool with the reason, md5tool mismatch icehook.dll. The icehook is a dll part of the icebot program, a bot used in ENEMY TERRITORY. I had in on my computer from long ago because on our enemy territory server PB is not run and I would view suspicious demos with it for confirmation of activity. Apparantly remnants of the bot were left in my wolf folders (much of my et and wolf stuff is in the same location).

Originally posted by Sabres
I like that right there. That's worth saving.

Pick One


http://lists.extropy.org/pipermail/extropy-chat/2004-October/009920.html
: )
Waldo

[Wolfy2]

waldo had 22 posts yesterday.. 66.

[SavageParrot]

Originally posted by Waldo
I forgot we lowly Tards should never question the mighty admins about hacks,

Question away I'm sure we'd all like to know those things.

[Trash Can]

Then here's one for Waldo:

http://www.brainydictionary.com/words/lo/lonely185790.html

Originally posted by Trash Can
Then here's one for Waldo:

http://www.brainydictionary.com/words/lo/lonely185790.html

awwwwwwwwwwww do ya have to rub it in guy?
*sniffle*
hahaha
: )
Waldo
Doc aint doing so good, now THOSE are some lame excuses
Right Savage?

Originally posted by Wolfy2
waldo had 22 posts yesterday.. 66.

How many I got today?
Did you ever make admin Wolfy as I recall you were the biggest Snitch and Suck Up on the server when I played there
How'dya make out?
: )
Waldo

Originally posted by SavageParrot
Question away I'm sure we'd all like to know those things.

Attagirl Savage
Ignore everything in that post except for one line
He's busted and you know it
I admire loyalty to a freind but if your going to call me a liar screw you
Check these way cool features
Icehook.Dll
Features:

- Chams
you can see the players through walls etc.

- Humanized Aiming (seen by ipR0kKA)
to prevent to look like a bot, it's possible to
give the aiming a more human look. If you don't want it
just switch it off.

- Targetchecker
the bot shoots only at viewable and living/revivable players.
No aiming at 'really' dead bodys.

- ESP
as well known

- Stress removals
removes environmental stress from the map: smoke,
fog, snow, grass, rain and snow.


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Remarks:

It´s mandatory for the aimbot to set the texture
quality to high - or the CRC won't work!!!

Set (in ET config) the mouse sensitivity at
about 5 and accelleration off - otherwise you
will figure out 'funny' movements.....

Bugs:

Some of the modelparts are not well recognized,
e.g. pack of soldiers, hands of axis... will be
fixed next time...

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