T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

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T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby Suden » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:33 am

Answer = it is not, although according to wiki, it is sometimes "considered to be, along with Iceland and the Faroe Islands", probably mostly by people who generally don't know what they're talking about. But how exactly are Iceland and the Faroe Islands part of the Scandinavian peninsula? Lord only knows.

Anyway, "Considered to be" does not equal "It is", in anyone's book. Get it yet T3546?

Someone asked already on answers.com: http://www.answers.com/scandinavia

Of course T3546, if you acually LIVED HERE, you might be able to ask the neighbours.... I have, and of the 50 or so Norwegians/Swedes I've discussed this with, not one says that Finland is in Scandinavia. I'm cool with that, because I know it isn't.

So why do people think that Finland is in Scandinavia?

a. Well, Scandinavia and Finland are all classed as "The Nordics".

b. The countries share the similar values and have similar social structures (know as the Nordic model to those who read books).

c. They are located very close to each other.


Use of Nordic countries vs. Scandinavia

Main article: Nordic countries
While the term Scandinavia is commonly used for Denmark, Norway and Sweden, the term the Nordic countries is used unambiguously for Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Iceland, including their associated territories (Greenland, the Faroe Islands, and the Åland Islands).[9] Scandinavia can thus be considered a subset of the Nordic countries.
In addition to the mainland countries of

the Nordic countries consist of

and

Estonia has applied for membership in the Nordic Council, referring to its cultural heritage and close linguistic links to Finland, although normally Estonia is regarded as one of the Baltic countries. All Baltic states have shared historical events with the Nordic countries, including Scandinavia, during the centuries.

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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby likethat » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:47 am

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Are we splitting hairs here. It would be like saying Canada isn't apart of North America.
Sure its not "no" the end of it but it sure looks like its on the front of it or even the middle top of it.
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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby Suden » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:00 am

likethat wrote:Are we splitting hairs here.



I don't think so. Someone said that Finland is part of Scandinavia, I said it wasn't. Then followed some strong words, and a few insults, so forgive me for setting the record straight.

likethat wrote:It would be like saying Canada isn't apart of North America.


Not really, on the basis that we know Canada is part of the North America. I don't think many people will dispute that.

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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby Suden » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:06 am

Nordic: Finland and Scandinavia


Now why would Holland & King split Finland out ?

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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby S.Shooter » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:08 am

likethat wrote:It would be like saying Canada isn't apart of North America.

No.
That compares to saying Finland isn't a part of Europe.
Both statements are false.

It is what Suden said.
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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby likethat » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:23 am

I guess it comes down to social vs geographic regions. I am sure that Canadians get called USA citizens in foreign countries, when they travel off continent around the world . For the most part there are little language differences mostly in some spelling and a bit in dialect, that some one that is not from the USA and canadian would not hear or understand. Even most USA citizen from the south would not pick up on the differences between far north USA and Canada. If they had not talked with Canadians in the past.
Some of the border state in the USA pronounce word similar to the Canadians. Like "About" vs "Aboat" or "Pra ject" vs "Pro Ject" I have friends from all over Canada and Minnesota they "sound" word very closely.

Yes "Nordiac" would seam a better way to class it though.
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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby likethat » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:26 am

Would I be wrong in saying Finland boarders Sweden. So the Canadian example stands.
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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby likethat » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:32 am

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At one point in the 20th century it was apart of one "country's territory" though that was stolen.
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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby Suden » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:42 am

likethat wrote:Would I be wrong in saying Finland boarders Sweden. So the Canadian example stands.


Rubbish, sorry but you're embarrassing yourself.

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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby Suden » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:43 am

likethat wrote:Image


At one point in the 20th century it was apart of one "country's territory" though that was stolen.


Rubbish again, Finland was never part of the "Germany territory".

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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby likethat » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:45 am

What I am getting at is that Canadians might take offence in being called US citizen just as Irish and Scottish don't like to be piled in with the Britain's (even the Welsh and Brits), or the French and Germans, or the Spanish and Mexicans, or the Greeks and Italians. Now for me it looks like the Sweds and the fins
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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby Suden » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:48 am

likethat wrote:At one point in the 20th century it was apart of one "country's territory" though that was stolen.



I have to come back to this. What on earth do you mean that Finland was part of German territory that was "stolen". Germany didn't come and steel any Finnish territory. Merely Finland was fighting a common enemy, Russia.

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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby likethat » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:49 am

So Finland was never occupied by the Germans. I didn't make that map
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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby likethat » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:55 am

Well I am German moved here to the USA. Once again Finland is the first country on the Scandinavian peninsula boarder by land mass Per your definition, and how far is it from Sweden by way of sea. Sure its not Scandinavian but good god it is so close it is easy for non Scandinavians to group it there.
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Re: T3546 thinks Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula

Postby likethat » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:01 pm

Suden wrote:Rubbish again, Finland was never part of the "Germany territory".


Well the russians where not attacking England.
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