Looking for some advice...
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- Murgatroyd
by Murgatroyd » Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:55 am
Originally posted by Mugzy
Naa, I don't get much out of reading books. I just read other people's code.
A good site for learning is http://www.aspin.com
Yeah, me too, but I like to have a good reference nearby so I can understand what I'm doing rather than just knowing what certain things do.. know what I'm saying? That's why I need a book that's a reference and not one of those "teach yourself" deals.
That site is awesome, I'll definitely use it. Thanks!
by Bossman » Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:05 pm
Here's my .02 for what it's worth (and to put it into context remember that I work in the consulting field in healthcare, despite my CS undergrad).
During the high times of the late 90's, my company made a point of hiring almost exclusively grads from master's programs. What we found out, aside from the premium that these people wanted, was that their perception of the work they were "qualified" to be doing was different from our view of what a new, inexperienced hire should be working on. In short they thought that learning the business and doing the grunt work was below them.
What we did find over time, and I am very much of this mind set, is that it is more effective to hire a person with an undergrad degree that has a few years experience over grads. I also don't know how much of a premium is still there for a grad degree, it probably differs by field.
So the long/short of it is, give me an undergrad with some experience over a prima donna grad anyday.
With that said, if you can balance getting some work experience while getting a free grad degree, why not.
During the high times of the late 90's, my company made a point of hiring almost exclusively grads from master's programs. What we found out, aside from the premium that these people wanted, was that their perception of the work they were "qualified" to be doing was different from our view of what a new, inexperienced hire should be working on. In short they thought that learning the business and doing the grunt work was below them.
What we did find over time, and I am very much of this mind set, is that it is more effective to hire a person with an undergrad degree that has a few years experience over grads. I also don't know how much of a premium is still there for a grad degree, it probably differs by field.
So the long/short of it is, give me an undergrad with some experience over a prima donna grad anyday.
With that said, if you can balance getting some work experience while getting a free grad degree, why not.
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by Colonel Ingus » Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:53 pm
Must agree with bossman.
Although not having finished a degree myself I have found that having actual real world work experience has been very helpful in getting me ahead. I have gotten jobs merely by going in and fixing a machine I had never seen before.
Having friends with grad degrees I see how that is important also. So the long and short of it is if you can combine some real world work experience with/while geting your MA it would definitely give you a leg up on competition that does not have both.
Most importantly though is the fact that you mentioned free? What kind of free? Is this an offer from some business? Thats something to be cautious about because some business' use that as a ploy to get a skilled worker at a premium wages. They will get you to work now and you never actual end up finishing the degree as they specialize your training for them.
If it is free and gets you what you want then why not? Free works very well when balancing your checkbook:D
Although not having finished a degree myself I have found that having actual real world work experience has been very helpful in getting me ahead. I have gotten jobs merely by going in and fixing a machine I had never seen before.
Having friends with grad degrees I see how that is important also. So the long and short of it is if you can combine some real world work experience with/while geting your MA it would definitely give you a leg up on competition that does not have both.
Most importantly though is the fact that you mentioned free? What kind of free? Is this an offer from some business? Thats something to be cautious about because some business' use that as a ploy to get a skilled worker at a premium wages. They will get you to work now and you never actual end up finishing the degree as they specialize your training for them.
If it is free and gets you what you want then why not? Free works very well when balancing your checkbook:D
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ... Benjamin Franklin
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by Colonel Ingus » Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:11 pm
Sounds good then dude!
And your financee shouldn't have a problem with it.
Hey did you ever notice how the word engage has gag right smack dab in the middle of it?
And your financee shouldn't have a problem with it.
Hey did you ever notice how the word engage has gag right smack dab in the middle of it?
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ... Benjamin Franklin
- Murgatroyd
by Murgatroyd » Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:35 pm
Originally posted by Colonel Ingus
Sounds good then dude!
And your [B]financee shouldn't have a problem with it.
Hey did you ever notice how the word engage has gag right smack dab in the middle of it? [/B]
And marriage begins with "mar" and ends with "age", and you can re-arrange the letters to spell "I rage ram"?
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by Colonel Ingus » Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:06 pm
Or RAR Image....
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- Mighty Mazz
by Mighty Mazz » Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:36 pm
So thats what all you guys do. Wish I had a job where I could sit around all day posting on game forums. 
Sad part is you probably get paid 2x if not more then me. 
I'm debating whether to go into baking instead of the grueling crazy life of a line cook.
Oh and real work experience is always better then schooling, dont care what field youre in.
Sad part is you probably get paid 2x if not more then me.
I'm debating whether to go into baking instead of the grueling crazy life of a line cook.
Oh and real work experience is always better then schooling, dont care what field youre in.
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