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by **SavageParrot** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:54 am

I actually think osp would be a great idea. Shrub does seem to have a lot of glitches.

by **Deadman** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:37 pm

I would like to thank M@A for having an intelligent conversation with me on the beach a few minutes ago. Based on that conversation I feel confident that he will follow through and team stacking by admins will no longer be possible. In the time between now and then, someone will be watching for it as proof of it taking place.

I'm sure M@A will not mind me posting a link to the conv here so that other may witness what has been said and potential have a positive reaction to an Admin taking steps to address a problem.

Image is large, so IE will probably not display it appropriately for you. Please download and use a better pic viewer to review if you like. The jist of the conversation is already posted above so there isn't much more than the actual meat of the conversation in here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~johntomferg/conv/ Enjoy!

by **MAN-AT-ARMS** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:57 pm

I've taken away the ability for admins to use the putteam command, which would allow them to stack teams. Team stacking is lame and I won't stand for it here. I don't really see any good reasons for them to need to use that command anyway, so I hope that takes care of that issue.

If anyone has a problem/complaint about what the admins are doing or how they are behaving, send me a PM and I'll take care of it. Please provide some kind of evidence if you can (like a screenshot etc.)

I want the gameplay fair and even on the server, period. I don't play favorites with the admins. If they are abusing it or causing problems I'll deal with them as I would any other player on the server.

by **DocTrebor** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:24 pm

by **ShipWreck** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:38 pm

most hated keek for having such "harsh" rules and bashed him. Now everyone hates the lessor of this i.e. spamming and whatnot. what is the "happy" medium? i dont see many people kicked or banned for spamming 4-5 messages one after the other anymore. This doesnt bother me u can spam ur asses off as far as i care. But most players dont like to see or hear it. So maybe i might mute for awhile if it gets out of hand. Yes i am a lvl3 admin whoopie doo. I havent nor have i thought about making new admins, personally i thought we had enough. But then again there was whining about not being enough. MAA made some more admins and now theres to many? IMO yeah there might be, most of us our on at the same time. some of the choices as admins i wouldnt have made personally. But it's not totally up to me. after all i am just a player. i have really tried to passive and i only kick for racial slurs, purposely Team Killing, or maybe the once in a while complete poptart. After all it is a game, but what is the fun playing a game that 55%.. or more of the people have to cry about something. i have done my best in the 3 years that i can. i am one person and i can't control every admin, that seems to get out of line. if any admin !putteam a player or friend on the side with more players or !revive themselves if they skull with be delt with. as a player it's not fair, and i'm sure really isn't fun with guys/ girls losing on the other side thats down players. most of u guys are over 18 start acting like it. and at least try to enjoy what ECGN has here.. for free.

by **Rand0m** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:42 pm

I'd really like to see M@A take off all the server restrictions, set max lives again, take off friendly fire, and let these noobs play on a real mans server. Im not saying Im a "1337" player, Im not even that great these days but I think by doing this would change the server a lot, and maybe send all these new annoying players off to another server. Lt. air strikes every 3 seconds, panzers everywhere hahah the carnage. I think this would be a hootinany of a good time, screw trying to "mix" things up by changing to a different map every 2 weeks when your around. If this ever happened it would weed out all the people who wheen on their mothers tits. Seriously all this server does is make you worse of a player with all the weapons restrictions, lt. recharge time lower, and meds health pack on speed. I enjoy playing here because this is where my friends are and where they play and its the only server I know but its time to bring on the carnage.

Another thing that will help with this whole admin problem, no complaints from my end, but from what Im seeing there are complaints from others. DONT LET PEOPLE IN A CLAN BE ADMINS!!!!!!!!!! Thats the first thing you dont do on this server. If you let one person in a clan become an admin the first person they will make an admin is a fellow clan member because its the right thing to do in their situation. Making anyone in a clan an admin is bad news. I've been here awhile I know how shit runs, and how shit runs bad. Take my advice or dont it doesnt matter I'll continue to play here but Im sure these would help.

Im sure these suggestions seem outlandish and farfetched but still itd be nice to play with total carnage hahaha.

by **ShipWreck** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:43 pm

ahh Man already took care of !putteam Sweet. guess i should have finished my post instead of going to lunch. ;/

by **w4rth0g** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:55 pm

by **SavageParrot** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:43 pm

by **arkaine** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:51 pm

Originally posted by w4rth0g
Howdy Yall,
hats off to both Deadman and M@A!!
(applause)
Deadman, pressured his point very well and minimized the "flamage". Nice.

M@A, shows that he can be reasoned with and make changes if presented in a fair fashion.

The community at work. LOL!
Frag Yo'ass Later

Agree:)

by **NOBBY (NL)** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:05 pm

by **Lunitic Fringe** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:52 pm

I use !putteam tardname S .. y? cause its part of my warning system.. now I will have verbal/kick/ban.. If there was admin abuse then have the offending admin step down. We don't need an admin that pulls this kind of stuff anyways. Get a demo of this kind of thing if you see it...

by **Slaughter2** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:11 am

agreed

by **cateye** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:13 am

Perhaps I'm being naive here, but I can't imagine who would do that (stack a team) on purpose. That would take an incredible lack of judgment.

No great loss losing !putteam (it doesn't work that well as a deterrent -- I think it's just confusing to drop someone into spec, verbal warnings work much better), and if it prevents something like this in the future, then I'm all for it.

by **FigoJudas** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:33 am

wanna screenshots?

Originally posted by Radram
i agree using the shlub commands are lame. but is it the same as a hack? i dont think so. if shlub is the problem then i suggest that ecgn use osp on their server and see what happens then.

The same as a hack? probably worst, at least a hacker don´t "break" the trust that a lot of persons put over the admin.

Don´t extrapolate the problem to shrub mod, the problem is there are admins who abuse of those commands irresponsiblely. If there aren´t those kind of admins, no problem.

PS: Well done DM, it's sad I can't express myself as well as you did.

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