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by **Starlite** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:11 pm

Yeah but how long was Figo using this program before Punkbuster detected it. A month ago? I've been suspecting him for a couple of months back. I know it has nothing to do with your likes or dislikes as I am the same.

I do think there are ways to get around PB after all I play on many other servers and theres always that one who does amazing things.

You should do a test MAA and download the program, see how fast PB kicks you and than trouble shoot how you could get around PB. If its possible which I'm sure it is than it would be possible for other players too.

And maybe not all programs are the same. One could be easier for PB to detect and vice versa.

by **Starlite** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:21 pm

Originally posted by aphid
[B]Oh please, MAN-AT-ARMS. You know full well you don't like Figo and that is the reason you refuse to believe he made a mistake and didn't know the program would do that. I'd agree with you if it was a wall hack where it has no other advantages besides cheating. This program he used speeds up your computer in other ways though and it is not solely for cheating. You don't know if he got it from a friend who said, "hey Figo, I got this program that will speed up your computer up a bit". I also see pages with SpeederXp listed as a download and none of them mention it can be used as a cheat.

Funny I asked him if he had a speed hack because he was twice as fast as me. I asked him that a couple of times. His answer no, yeah right, you think everyone hacks, blah blah blah, your dumb, whatever. I'm like yeah well, your twice as fast as me and I find that a little odd for your 175 ping. So, he was using this program but he didn't see how he became almost invincible all of a sudden, faster. Wow thats unbelieveable.

Bottom line is he got caught with the program that makes you twice as fast. So if this isn't a hack its a f' amazing tweak.

by **sgtslaught42** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:12 pm

I knew there had to be a reason why I'm getting owned by everyone

by **aphid** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:01 pm

Originally posted by Starlite
Funny I asked him if he had a speed hack because he was twice as fast as me. I asked him that a couple of times. His answer no, yeah right, you think everyone hacks, blah blah blah, your dumb, whatever. I'm like yeah well, your twice as fast as me and I find that a little odd for your 175 ping. So, he was using this program but he didn't see how he became almost invincible all of a sudden, faster. Wow thats unbelieveable.

Ping has nothing to do with game speed. It has to do with latency to the server. Meaning you would see people jumping around if their ping is high as their computer is sending data to the server slower. Your computer displays the location of the person when you get the data. Since you are getting the data slower, your computer cannot update it as fast. Ever slingshot around when your connection is interrupted constantly? Ever see someone slingshot around when they have a bad connection? That is what he sees and you will see and has nothing to do with this cheat. Not to mention, I believe the server uses the last known location of the player if a person has a higher ping then them. So if you shoot him while he is lagging out, he will still die and when his connection is back, he'll be dead. This makes him easier to kill. Wow, that's unbelieveable!

Why does this need to be explained to someone who is an admin?

by **Starlite** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:39 pm

First of all. You know very well what Im talking about. Obviously when I have a 50 ping it's easier for me to reach my targets. And obviously when I ping higher its nearly impossible. That program clearly states that it would speed up your game performace. There was even a quote that it would make you run faster than your other teammates. Now that was a nice little paragraph you exerted but you should really try using that energy on teaching Figo how to stick up for himself, since you obviously aren't doing a very good job at it. There is a reason why PB caught him and there is reason why it's not allowed. I'm not gonna go in circles here. It's pretty much self explanatory.

by **Killer Mike** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:51 pm

I'm not saying Figo hacked or he didn't, I do know that when you do see him running faster it's not by a program (at least what I saw of him). He has the +salute jump to a masterpiece. He doesn't need a hill to go up (like on the salute jump over bunker), he can get that little boost just running on a terrain.

by **Starlite** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:54 pm

Lmao, I know what the trick jump is.

I don't know, it's too bad we can't download the program and see how much of an advantage we would really get. There is no way of knowing until you try it.

Yet it does say "speed up your game performance" so yeah call it what you want. It is pretty obvious what it is...

by **gowhitesox99** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:16 pm

finally watched it, nice job Mike... how do you demo yourself from that angle?

by **DocTrebor** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:02 am

Originally posted by gowhitesox99
finally watched it, nice job Mike... how do you demo yourself from that angle?

I wondered that myself.

by **Sh@dow Raven** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:58 am

Yeah.... how do you get that kind of view?

by **aphid** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:36 am

Originally posted by Starlite
First of all. You know very well what Im talking about....

Actually, I have no idea what the hell you are talking about as you still do not get it. This is not about sticking up for him as it is up to him right now if he chooses to clear it up. Right now, this is pointing out how you are talking out of your ass once again.

You stated about his ping and how was he able to move faster than you with it. Yes, that program would make him run faster. Glad you can read and comprehend stuff. Now comprehend this again.

Originally posted by Starlite
I'm like yeah well, your twice as fast as me and I find that a little odd for your 175 ping.

Lag and that program have nothing to do with each other. This is like saying you have a brother and a sister so you must have another sister. So your whole accusation was based off his ping (sister) and that he was moving fast (brother) which ended up being an unfounded accusation since your conclusion, based off your evidence, made no sense (that you have a sister and a brother so you must have another sister). That analogy should keep you occupied for awhile. So don't try and gloat and act like you're this super sleuth who can spot these cheats. It was a typical case of you being dominated by someone and becoming frustrated. You then resorted to the old you're cheating routine as opposed to the !shuffle that you are so fond of and use everytime you lose.

Your computer is only as fast as your slowest component. This isn't rocket science my friend.

by **Starlite** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:45 am

Anyways I don't know the technicalities exactly. For I have never used this program and I doubt you do either, you are just talking out of your ass, like you ALWAYS do. I am just following by what it states which is what I have listed above.

Don't you think if this progam were to speed up your gaming performance than just maybe he would have a better chance at shooting his targets? That is all I'm stating which is what the program explains. If you have twice as much speed than obviously if I am shooting him it will not connect. Just like if you're shooting at someone who is using sprint. Your bullets practically fly off of him. That is what I have experienced in my last 3 years of playing this game. Now you can continue with your technical bullshit on your defnition of ping. Like I said before I don't know the technicalities but I'm not that misinformed. I know a tweak/hack when I see one.

So rant on but I'm done.

Cheers!

by **$$$** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:09 am

Originally posted by aphid
It was a typical case of you being dominated by someone and becoming frustrated. You then resorted to the old you're cheating routine as opposed to the !shuffle that you are so fond of and use everytime you lose.

Rofl, Owned!

Originally posted by Starlite
I know a tweak/hack when I see one.

Obviously you don't, I think Aphid summed it up for us in the quoted paragraph above...Star let me remind you, just because someone owns you, it doesnt mean they cheat...and in Figo's case, he was just that damn good.

by **MoJo** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:53 pm

Originally posted by $$$
and in Figo's case, he was just that damn good.

lol, what can you expect the guys been playing for years!

by **DocTrebor** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:37 pm

Jesus Christ will someone tell us how to get taht view????

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