wTh doesnt tolerate hacks!!!
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- Gray Angel
by Gray Angel » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:44 pm
Those are some very likely seeming explainations. Only problem is that they are not true in this case. wTh Melarlo and I watched this demo in orginal and 2 flash formats at least (!) 50 times. This is a hack.
1) One of the biggies has to do with the map, and lighting. The wall moved through is a structural wall. on the other side of it lies an absence of lighting. If you watch him move into the wall note that the med pack that he is holding darkens immediately. This indicates that the enitity in question, our hacker in this case, is still actively interacting with the map effects, not lagged out, nor is the person demoing him lagged out. Later in the orginal demo (you can easily test this for yourself) he takes the legitamite patch to the stairs and the object he has drawn (his tommy gun at the time) only darkens as he begins to turn the corner, and leaves the lighted area of the hallway.
2) Relating to the med charge bar. Something that you don't see in the vid posted is where a connection inturrpt occurs. It begins only after our hacker has begun to noclip his way through the wall. The med pack that was dropped that depletes the med bar was used as he was turning the corner into the hallway. I am speculating a bit here, but I think it is around this point that he engaged his no clipping hack. The med bar returns to the position it {should} have been in when he dropped the med pack only after he has come out of the wall, and diengaged the noclip, long before any CI or strange movement.
3) No one can lag --> through <-- a structural wall. Only around one.
4) Having to do with the movement through the wall. The path take I'm certain was practiced beforehand. From the point he enters he is using forward, strafe right, and jump. Test for yourself in spec which has movement like no clipping, only with out the no clipping part. Using these keys you move in a manner identical to the that of our hacker when he passed though the wall.
5) Gravity. Note that as as he comes out of the wall, draws his tommy gun, etc.. he drops down a tiny bit. This is the effect of turning off an noclip. Gravity returns and you simple fall down to the nearest surface. He has to be slightly above it, because he cannot take the chance for perfection. Reson being that if you turn off a no clip while in a wall you are unable to move, a little hard to explain how you got planted in the cement if someone comes around the corner unexpectedly.
6) The bonus of a no clip is that while you are in the walls it has a similar effect of a wallhack.
7) Maybe it was his brother playing at the time this demo was taken?
That's all for now. I liken the defense mounted to that of a talented attorney defending a guilty client, using facts that sound like they make sense to hide the actual truth. Unfortunately for this fellow, there's just way to much forensic evidence against him.
Sucklord, please go find some other game to hack.
Gray Angel
1) One of the biggies has to do with the map, and lighting. The wall moved through is a structural wall. on the other side of it lies an absence of lighting. If you watch him move into the wall note that the med pack that he is holding darkens immediately. This indicates that the enitity in question, our hacker in this case, is still actively interacting with the map effects, not lagged out, nor is the person demoing him lagged out. Later in the orginal demo (you can easily test this for yourself) he takes the legitamite patch to the stairs and the object he has drawn (his tommy gun at the time) only darkens as he begins to turn the corner, and leaves the lighted area of the hallway.
2) Relating to the med charge bar. Something that you don't see in the vid posted is where a connection inturrpt occurs. It begins only after our hacker has begun to noclip his way through the wall. The med pack that was dropped that depletes the med bar was used as he was turning the corner into the hallway. I am speculating a bit here, but I think it is around this point that he engaged his no clipping hack. The med bar returns to the position it {should} have been in when he dropped the med pack only after he has come out of the wall, and diengaged the noclip, long before any CI or strange movement.
3) No one can lag --> through <-- a structural wall. Only around one.
4) Having to do with the movement through the wall. The path take I'm certain was practiced beforehand. From the point he enters he is using forward, strafe right, and jump. Test for yourself in spec which has movement like no clipping, only with out the no clipping part. Using these keys you move in a manner identical to the that of our hacker when he passed though the wall.
5) Gravity. Note that as as he comes out of the wall, draws his tommy gun, etc.. he drops down a tiny bit. This is the effect of turning off an noclip. Gravity returns and you simple fall down to the nearest surface. He has to be slightly above it, because he cannot take the chance for perfection. Reson being that if you turn off a no clip while in a wall you are unable to move, a little hard to explain how you got planted in the cement if someone comes around the corner unexpectedly.
6) The bonus of a no clip is that while you are in the walls it has a similar effect of a wallhack.
7) Maybe it was his brother playing at the time this demo was taken?
That's all for now. I liken the defense mounted to that of a talented attorney defending a guilty client, using facts that sound like they make sense to hide the actual truth. Unfortunately for this fellow, there's just way to much forensic evidence against him.
Sucklord, please go find some other game to hack.
Gray Angel
by serum » Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:05 pm
Explain my demo please. Have you even watched my demo? You have no idea what you're talking about.
Just shows how stupid you are if you don't even watch my proof. You don't know anything at all. So sad.
It also says I have 0 hp, is that a hack too? HP hack? Explain my 0 HP.
http://www.clanfa.net/serum/sucklord/demo0000.rar
Just shows how stupid you are if you don't even watch my proof. You don't know anything at all. So sad.
It also says I have 0 hp, is that a hack too? HP hack? Explain my 0 HP.
http://www.clanfa.net/serum/sucklord/demo0000.rar
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by SavageParrot » Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:15 am
Can someone else make a demo where they pull out their cord. It's not exactly convincing that the guy who is accused of being able to clip walls posts another demo of himself doing it to prove that he isn't 
Or is that not clear?
Or is that not clear?
by serum » Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:18 am
You liars!!!!! They rigged the demo they are showing, I have the real demo it shows the CI logo when I'm "going through the wall"
http://www.clanfa.net/serum/sucklord/demo0081.rar
http://www.clanfa.net/serum/sucklord/demo0081.rar
by serum » Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:20 am
Originally posted by SavageParrot
Can someone else make a demo where they pull out their cord. It's not exactly convincing that the guy who is accused of being able to clip walls posts another demo of himself doing it to prove that he isn't
Or is that not clear?
Did you watch the demo? It wasn't me going through the wall in my demo....
by serum » Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:28 am
I tried making a clip like their "proof" and the CI doesn't show up when you make an AVI demo. That's why you don't see the CI, but it's there, watch the real demo. It's plain as day. Try hitting F5 as soon as you start the demo, watch the CI magically disappear! Watch it reappar when you don't hit f5 when you watch it.
Anyone who refuses to watch the demo knows I'm right. Just too stubborn to admit it.
Anyone who refuses to watch the demo knows I'm right. Just too stubborn to admit it.
by Rand0m » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:41 am
Originally posted by serum
It also says I have 0 hp, is that a hack too? HP hack? Explain my 0 HP.
have you ever spectated before? it keeps the heatlh at 0 so people watching can't exploit it and tell their buddy so and so only has 5 hp go finish him off etc.
by B » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:56 am
Anyone knows that when you get a connection interuption you freeze in one spot like the running man and usually when connection interference occurs the person your viewing stays in one place. You just see your guy shoving back and forth and if you've kept on holding any of the directional buttons and your connection gets back you just teleport to some distance. Also..the connection interuption will show up for the player not the one taking the demo. You told a few people it was lag. Then you tell others it wasn't. Now we rigged the demo. Make up your mind, your running out of excuses. Also i was having comp problems. But the demo was taking days before hand. No clipping is a cvar hack and your a hacker. How many times are you gonna edit your posts and change your stories?
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