US MILITARY ACTION IN IRAQ Y or N?
- BloodBudda
by BloodBudda » Fri Mar 21, 2003 12:38 am
One final note:
Please in your future descriptions of America, could you please leave out the word Democracy.
WE ARE A REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY !!!!
Republic: Authority is derived through the election of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward property is respect for laws and individual rights, and a sensible economic procedure. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principals and established evidence, with a strict regard for consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment and progress.
Military Training Manual TM2000-5, 1928
Democracy: A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of direct expression. Results in a mobocracy. Attitude toward people is communistic, negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate whether it is based upon deliberation or government by passion, prejudice, and impulse without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
Military Training ManualTM2000-5, 1928
If you have any questions on the state of Amerika...look above. You all do not even know what type of country you have. We live in a Republic, not in a Democracy. every time you use the word Democracy, you are doing your forefathers who died for this land a great disservice.
I do support the troops that guard this land, but do not approve the way they are being used.
Saddam was put into power by the CIA and other behind the scene players. Much like Hitler was supported and helped into power with the help of Prescott Bush (grandfather to Shrub) and other eleitist business leaders (plus the Masons, Illuminati, Knights of Malta, and don't forget our favorites the Jesuits)
But I guess that is also propaganda.
Look it up. Prescott Bush's assets were seized after WW2 unther the trading with the enemy act of 1942. If only they did it to Ford, Kennedy, Rockefeller, Nelson you get the picture.
Truth be told, I know nothing. I only can attain an idea based on what I see and read. So far, what I have attained through my readings is coming to fruition.
Our government is a collection of thieves and cronies who lack one ounce of patriotism between them, save Ron Paul from Texas, the only no vote to the Constution shredder called the PATRIOT ACT. Patriot Act part 2 is already on the table, just waiting to be implimented.
But then WE have nothing to worry about, do we?
After all a terrorist, by Patriot Act standards could be jaywalker.
A REAL American patriot would question the actual motives behind this farce (war) and who would benefit the most.
A REAL American patriot would demand full investigations into 9-11. Instead the still smoldering debris was hastily removed and shipped overseas to be used a scrap in the next great American Ship not to be built by Americans. Why the rush?
A REAL American patriot would question why the same company the removed the WTC Debris also removed the Oaklahoma City Bombing debris in likewise fashion. They demolished the building, then carted it off, buried it, and then erected a fence to keep people out. All this despite the building archatech said the building could be rebuilt of a third of the cost. Why the rush ??
A REAL American patriot would question the government involvement of the murder in Waco, and that of America's very own Saddam; Janet Reno
A REAL American patriot would question why the same sniper that shot Weaver's wife a Ruby Ridge, was still free with not even a reprimand, only to snipe the towers of the Davidian Complex.
A REAL American patriot would ask how the government will not answer redresses regarding the fraudulent nature of the Income Tax. Clear violation of the very 1st Amendment.
A REAL American patriot would ask why we have this FIAT money instead of money backed by silver and gold. Clear viotlation of Article 1 section 10
A REAL American patriot would question any gun control that limits their ability to obtain a common ground with their government in regards to weaponry. A clear violation of the 2nd Amendment.
A REAL American patriot would recogonize that this is not his government. It does not represent him nor does it value his life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. This country does not protect land rights. Again refer to the above definitions.
A REAL American patriot would see through the veil of constant bullshit, remove the blinders, and see that his government is no more.
It is no longer a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
This country no longer has a free market economy. We are NOT capatialist. We are supposed to have a free market with new inventive ideas, not rehash, redone, scraps from by-gone eras. Capitalism only breeds corruption. Politicans and Corporations by their very nature, like lawyers, are parasites.
More people have been killed by their own goverment throughout the years than all of the wars, disease, and natural disasters combined.
If you have any questions on where your government belongs answer these questions:
Who creates man?
Who creates government?
The created can never be greater than the creator.
But then again, this all could only be a conspiracy theory.
I return you to your regularly scheduled CIA programming
Please in your future descriptions of America, could you please leave out the word Democracy.
WE ARE A REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY !!!!
Republic: Authority is derived through the election of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward property is respect for laws and individual rights, and a sensible economic procedure. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principals and established evidence, with a strict regard for consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment and progress.
Military Training Manual TM2000-5, 1928
Democracy: A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of direct expression. Results in a mobocracy. Attitude toward people is communistic, negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate whether it is based upon deliberation or government by passion, prejudice, and impulse without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
Military Training ManualTM2000-5, 1928
If you have any questions on the state of Amerika...look above. You all do not even know what type of country you have. We live in a Republic, not in a Democracy. every time you use the word Democracy, you are doing your forefathers who died for this land a great disservice.
I do support the troops that guard this land, but do not approve the way they are being used.
Saddam was put into power by the CIA and other behind the scene players. Much like Hitler was supported and helped into power with the help of Prescott Bush (grandfather to Shrub) and other eleitist business leaders (plus the Masons, Illuminati, Knights of Malta, and don't forget our favorites the Jesuits)
But I guess that is also propaganda.
Look it up. Prescott Bush's assets were seized after WW2 unther the trading with the enemy act of 1942. If only they did it to Ford, Kennedy, Rockefeller, Nelson you get the picture.
Truth be told, I know nothing. I only can attain an idea based on what I see and read. So far, what I have attained through my readings is coming to fruition.
Our government is a collection of thieves and cronies who lack one ounce of patriotism between them, save Ron Paul from Texas, the only no vote to the Constution shredder called the PATRIOT ACT. Patriot Act part 2 is already on the table, just waiting to be implimented.
But then WE have nothing to worry about, do we?
After all a terrorist, by Patriot Act standards could be jaywalker.
A REAL American patriot would question the actual motives behind this farce (war) and who would benefit the most.
A REAL American patriot would demand full investigations into 9-11. Instead the still smoldering debris was hastily removed and shipped overseas to be used a scrap in the next great American Ship not to be built by Americans. Why the rush?
A REAL American patriot would question why the same company the removed the WTC Debris also removed the Oaklahoma City Bombing debris in likewise fashion. They demolished the building, then carted it off, buried it, and then erected a fence to keep people out. All this despite the building archatech said the building could be rebuilt of a third of the cost. Why the rush ??
A REAL American patriot would question the government involvement of the murder in Waco, and that of America's very own Saddam; Janet Reno
A REAL American patriot would question why the same sniper that shot Weaver's wife a Ruby Ridge, was still free with not even a reprimand, only to snipe the towers of the Davidian Complex.
A REAL American patriot would ask how the government will not answer redresses regarding the fraudulent nature of the Income Tax. Clear violation of the very 1st Amendment.
A REAL American patriot would ask why we have this FIAT money instead of money backed by silver and gold. Clear viotlation of Article 1 section 10
A REAL American patriot would question any gun control that limits their ability to obtain a common ground with their government in regards to weaponry. A clear violation of the 2nd Amendment.
A REAL American patriot would recogonize that this is not his government. It does not represent him nor does it value his life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. This country does not protect land rights. Again refer to the above definitions.
A REAL American patriot would see through the veil of constant bullshit, remove the blinders, and see that his government is no more.
It is no longer a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
This country no longer has a free market economy. We are NOT capatialist. We are supposed to have a free market with new inventive ideas, not rehash, redone, scraps from by-gone eras. Capitalism only breeds corruption. Politicans and Corporations by their very nature, like lawyers, are parasites.
More people have been killed by their own goverment throughout the years than all of the wars, disease, and natural disasters combined.
If you have any questions on where your government belongs answer these questions:
Who creates man?
Who creates government?
The created can never be greater than the creator.
But then again, this all could only be a conspiracy theory.
I return you to your regularly scheduled CIA programming
- Ralph Wiggum
by Ralph Wiggum » Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:02 am
On the off chance that this is not a joke:
BloodBudda, it's a little weird that you think the U.S. was completely infiltrated by the Illuminati or whoever from at least 1871 and yet you are citing with approval to a military publication from 1928.
Have you read the 16th Amendment? I don't like income taxes either, probably more than you since I actually make money, not living in a tar-paper shack in Montana and all, but come on. By the way, how would the income tax violate the First Amendment? (leaving aside the fact that it is authorized by the 16th?)
Art. I, Sec. 10 of the Constitution clearly says that "No state shall . . . make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts." This is not applicable to the federal government, but to the states. (And besides that, if I read your post right you are saying that it would be constitutional to use paper currency so long as it were backed by gold or silver. Even that would appear to literally violate a requirement to use gold or silver coin.) Come back if Congress starts passing bills of attainder or granting titles of nobility which are proscribed by Art. I, Sec. 9.
Also, for the sake of accuracy I too differentiate between the a republic and a democracy. But the fact is a republic is also called a representative democracy.
Are you sure you're reading this stuff? You're not getting signals through your dental work or your dog's not talking to you about it?
BloodBudda, it's a little weird that you think the U.S. was completely infiltrated by the Illuminati or whoever from at least 1871 and yet you are citing with approval to a military publication from 1928.
Have you read the 16th Amendment? I don't like income taxes either, probably more than you since I actually make money, not living in a tar-paper shack in Montana and all, but come on. By the way, how would the income tax violate the First Amendment? (leaving aside the fact that it is authorized by the 16th?)
Art. I, Sec. 10 of the Constitution clearly says that "No state shall . . . make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts." This is not applicable to the federal government, but to the states. (And besides that, if I read your post right you are saying that it would be constitutional to use paper currency so long as it were backed by gold or silver. Even that would appear to literally violate a requirement to use gold or silver coin.) Come back if Congress starts passing bills of attainder or granting titles of nobility which are proscribed by Art. I, Sec. 9.
Also, for the sake of accuracy I too differentiate between the a republic and a democracy. But the fact is a republic is also called a representative democracy.
Are you sure you're reading this stuff? You're not getting signals through your dental work or your dog's not talking to you about it?
- Rule of Wrist
by Rule of Wrist » Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:11 am
The end times are at hand! SATAN is going to rain fire on everyone at the CIA's request ANY TIME NOW! Just mark my words... I can't believe you people are so stupid not to be able to s-s-s-see it!
The pyramids in Egypt and Antarctica(buried under the ice by the KGB with help from the Aryans) are going to raise up off their foundations and awaken the easter island statues! Everyone in this area should leave IMMEDIATELY!!! Have you ANY IDEA what th-th-th-those statues can do! I DO!!! And it is not pretty, LET ME T-T-T-TELL YOU!
But that is just a neo-nazi, greenpeace distraction!(b-b-b-bastards)!
The real threat is those freakishly giant goldfish that the French pyreneean fighters bred in the south pacific with their nuclear tests a few years back! These goldfish can swallow ENTIRE ISLANDS! No one will be s-s-s-safe! All the south pacific islands swallowed off the map!! I haven't had a chance to vacation there yet! (D-D-D-Damn french pyreneean fighters....)
Once the goldfish have had their fill... yes you guessed it! All of the yetis and bigfeet will form their own government and rule over the people of their land with a hairy fist! It was written long ago! I am j-j-j-just the messenger....
My advice to all of you is to masturbate until you pass out, this way, you will not feel the intense pain of the final d-d-d-d-days....
The pyramids in Egypt and Antarctica(buried under the ice by the KGB with help from the Aryans) are going to raise up off their foundations and awaken the easter island statues! Everyone in this area should leave IMMEDIATELY!!! Have you ANY IDEA what th-th-th-those statues can do! I DO!!! And it is not pretty, LET ME T-T-T-TELL YOU!
But that is just a neo-nazi, greenpeace distraction!(b-b-b-bastards)!
The real threat is those freakishly giant goldfish that the French pyreneean fighters bred in the south pacific with their nuclear tests a few years back! These goldfish can swallow ENTIRE ISLANDS! No one will be s-s-s-safe! All the south pacific islands swallowed off the map!! I haven't had a chance to vacation there yet! (D-D-D-Damn french pyreneean fighters....)
Once the goldfish have had their fill... yes you guessed it! All of the yetis and bigfeet will form their own government and rule over the people of their land with a hairy fist! It was written long ago! I am j-j-j-just the messenger....
My advice to all of you is to masturbate until you pass out, this way, you will not feel the intense pain of the final d-d-d-d-days....
- MeatShield
by MeatShield » Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:30 am
Unless I was suffering from brain-cramp after reading that earlier post... I can't belive I have yet to hear about the New World Order !!!
Come-on Blood, if you are going to rant.... go all out!!!
oh, and don't forget contrails and crop circles too..
Come-on Blood, if you are going to rant.... go all out!!!
oh, and don't forget contrails and crop circles too..
- Xenius
- El Cid
by El Cid » Fri Mar 21, 2003 7:36 am
Those were some funny replies RuleofW.
Thanks for taking the time Ralph to address Bloodbuddha's argument, but it is a lost cause. The guy is KA-RAy-ZEEEE!!
!!Bloodbuddah, take the next flight to France where they will welcome you in open arms. Until then we will be monitoring your every move, and recording your unconcious thoughts...
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 4 guests