Who's next after Saddam?
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by Sidekick Floppy » Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:34 am
Originally posted by COL.BUKKAKE
and lets not forget, the vastly large Anti-semitic fever that runs through our dear friends in France, Belgium, Germany.
I think you shouldn't accuse Belgium of something if you dont know what you are talking about. Back in WW2, our people gave shelter to Jews who were hiding from the Nazi regime. We even risked our lives by doing this. The brother of my grandfather was shot because he gave Jews shelter. And now you gonna say that we hate the Jews? We have a Jewish community here and we do not hate them at all. We could however, disagree with the politics of Sharon, but that doesnt mean we are anti-semitic.
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by Sidekick Floppy » Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:47 am
Originally posted by Blackrock
Ehhh, we can sit here and voice our opinions of what we think should be done. Fact is, we dont know the whole story behind ANYTHING these days. All we know is what the goverment billboards(media) say.
I agree with you. Media with a neutral voice is hard to find these days. Many media networks have chosen a side and give us media in a certain perspective. Example: Last days I only see anti-war protests on the news, while I'm certain that may people are pro war, but they are not mentioned in the media. Again a prove of how dangerous media can be if it is not neutral.
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by Sidekick Floppy » Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:53 am
Originally posted by bayotanzk
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Oh by the way I believe that Israel was a jewish state, belonged to jews, long before the palestinians came along (traveling gypsies).
Thats a pretty weak argument, because in your way of thinking, it would mean North America belonged to the Indian native people, long before the US came along.
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by SilverSurfer » Sun Mar 23, 2003 7:30 am
finally someone that can defend uss cause i don't speak enouf english to say really intelligent things.
and it's not because im stupid
and it's not because im stupid
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by COL.BUKKAKE » Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:05 pm
I guess the article that I have read that the Belgians want to try Ariel Sharon for war crimes was false.
Or that the Belgian Gov plays to the many Muslims that live in Brussels, so much so that in the wake of synagogue fire bombings it was the Orthodox Jews that were told not to dress in religious garb, for their own protection.
Floppy I salute your grandfather for the stance he took in protecting the Jews.
But lets not forget the people ghe was protecting them from were not only the Nazi's but also your very own Leon Degrelle. Who couldnt wait to round up and hand over as many as possible.
AAAHHHH nothing like over done Jew meat
Or that the Belgian Gov plays to the many Muslims that live in Brussels, so much so that in the wake of synagogue fire bombings it was the Orthodox Jews that were told not to dress in religious garb, for their own protection.
Floppy I salute your grandfather for the stance he took in protecting the Jews.
But lets not forget the people ghe was protecting them from were not only the Nazi's but also your very own Leon Degrelle. Who couldnt wait to round up and hand over as many as possible.
AAAHHHH nothing like over done Jew meat
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by Sidekick Floppy » Sun Mar 23, 2003 2:14 pm
Originally posted by COL.BUKKAKE
I guess the article that I have read that the Belgians want to try Ariel Sharon for war crimes was false.
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In Belgium we have something called the Genocide law: you can trail ANYONE for commiting genocide, also forreign people. Some years ago, apparently there was a massacre in the refugee camps Sabra and Chatilla and Sharon was involved then. Now a few survivores from the camps are accusing Sharon of genocide.
Originally posted by COL.BUKKAKE
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Or that the Belgian Gov plays to the many Muslims that live in Brussels, so much so that in the wake of synagogue fire bombings it was the Orthodox Jews that were told not to dress in religious garb, for their own protection.
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The problem is a much more complex. Here in Belgium you can become accused of racism very fast. That is why they are very carefull in handling the situation. About this subject I can keep talking for a long time, but I'm gonna spare you the details
Originally posted by COL.BUKKAKE
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But lets not forget the people ghe was protecting them from were not only the Nazi's but also your very own Leon Degrelle. Who couldnt wait to round up and hand over as many as possible.
AAAHHHH nothing like over done Jew meat
You're right about Degrelle. In every war you got defectors. But they were punished at the end of the war.
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by COL.BUKKAKE » Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:05 pm
Originally posted by FLOPPY
You're right about Degrelle. In every war you got defectors. But they were punished at the end of the war.
AH but can you tell me how Degrelle was punished. Oh yeah I forgot, he died sun-tanned in Spain at the young age of 87. The darling of the neo-Nazi's throughout Europe.
Belgium did nothing to force the Spanish to give him up.
At the end of WWII, 100,000 Belgians returned home including 30,000 who fought for the Nazi's. Virtually all recieved welfare benefits, the only ones who didnt, "racial deportees".....the JEWS.
Funny to me that your GOV. feels the need to try Sharon, and yet Saddam gets the thumbs up.
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by BloodBudda » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:55 pm
With Turkey desparately wanting to go after the Kurds in Nothern Iraq, the US (and their Zionist Buddies in Israel) could use this opportunity to eliminate another nation opposed to Israel that seems to walk the fence on this issue.
Turkey wishes to reclaim land lost since WW1, remeber the Ottoman Empire was on the side of Germany in that one, if your schools still teach history properly.
Turkey has also had an ongoing "crisis" with the Kurds. With the CIA training them, I can see the Kurds being unleased upon Turkey to cause major problems for them for placing restrictions on us using thier airspace. Damn them. They are not playing like good little subserviant countries in the sandbox of the world.
Now of course we will have to deal with North Korea, but one matter you all fail to realize. In the 70's, then President Jimmy Carter made a treaty with the North. The North Koreans were to abandon their Nuclear Program 20 years after the treaty was signed. I believe that was supposed to be in 1996. Which they did, lest they pull out that off-line plant a begin firing it up.
Bush, in his infinate wisdom, with the advice of his Zionist Cabinet, placed an embargo on North Korea. This caused a massive energy shortage in that country. They had to bring out a mothballed plant and get it online, just to keep their citizenry happy. They basically said screw you, and they have every right. The missile tests are to create the panic to hopefully (in their mind) keep aggressors out of their country. They can not reach the US, but they could Japan (a US ally, defeated in WW2, but given billions upon billions to rebuild, much like Germany) Creation of their next problem.
Now, you all are going to be sold another reaction. "Gotta take care of them damn North Koreans." Afterall, they should rely on foreign aid like all other obedient countries. They should rely on measures outside their control, being that the US is the only country who decide its own destiny, right?
Afterall, we have the biggest and baddest guns. We have the best technology. We have more missiles. Fuck with us, try our patience and we may even nuke your ass. We dictate to the world what they can or can't do, right? We are the leaders of moraltiy, right?
(insert girls gone wild video promo here)
That defense didn't work in Nuremburg and will not work here.
No, in the end, we will keep our presence in the Middle East, to either take over countries that stand in the way of Israel, or otherwise try to harm that abomination of a country, and control others from seeking the natural resources they need in oil and natural gas.
The North Koreans will take care of themselves and align with China, since both countries are basically in the same boat. Each consuming resources at alarming rates and the future looking pretty bleak for new discoveries in their own countries.
No, they will have to turn their eyes to the Middle East, and they will find us.
As for India and Pakistan. They will nuke each other into oblivion fighting over a piece of land no bigger than half the state of Rhode Island. Ehh, who really cares, after all it's just more hungry mouths to feed and clothe.
Afterall, the UN mandates that there be a reduction on world population by something like 80%, this looks like a good place to start.
You may now return to your regulary scheduled CIA programming.
Turkey wishes to reclaim land lost since WW1, remeber the Ottoman Empire was on the side of Germany in that one, if your schools still teach history properly.
Turkey has also had an ongoing "crisis" with the Kurds. With the CIA training them, I can see the Kurds being unleased upon Turkey to cause major problems for them for placing restrictions on us using thier airspace. Damn them. They are not playing like good little subserviant countries in the sandbox of the world.
Now of course we will have to deal with North Korea, but one matter you all fail to realize. In the 70's, then President Jimmy Carter made a treaty with the North. The North Koreans were to abandon their Nuclear Program 20 years after the treaty was signed. I believe that was supposed to be in 1996. Which they did, lest they pull out that off-line plant a begin firing it up.
Bush, in his infinate wisdom, with the advice of his Zionist Cabinet, placed an embargo on North Korea. This caused a massive energy shortage in that country. They had to bring out a mothballed plant and get it online, just to keep their citizenry happy. They basically said screw you, and they have every right. The missile tests are to create the panic to hopefully (in their mind) keep aggressors out of their country. They can not reach the US, but they could Japan (a US ally, defeated in WW2, but given billions upon billions to rebuild, much like Germany) Creation of their next problem.
Now, you all are going to be sold another reaction. "Gotta take care of them damn North Koreans." Afterall, they should rely on foreign aid like all other obedient countries. They should rely on measures outside their control, being that the US is the only country who decide its own destiny, right?
Afterall, we have the biggest and baddest guns. We have the best technology. We have more missiles. Fuck with us, try our patience and we may even nuke your ass. We dictate to the world what they can or can't do, right? We are the leaders of moraltiy, right?
(insert girls gone wild video promo here)
That defense didn't work in Nuremburg and will not work here.
No, in the end, we will keep our presence in the Middle East, to either take over countries that stand in the way of Israel, or otherwise try to harm that abomination of a country, and control others from seeking the natural resources they need in oil and natural gas.
The North Koreans will take care of themselves and align with China, since both countries are basically in the same boat. Each consuming resources at alarming rates and the future looking pretty bleak for new discoveries in their own countries.
No, they will have to turn their eyes to the Middle East, and they will find us.
As for India and Pakistan. They will nuke each other into oblivion fighting over a piece of land no bigger than half the state of Rhode Island. Ehh, who really cares, after all it's just more hungry mouths to feed and clothe.
Afterall, the UN mandates that there be a reduction on world population by something like 80%, this looks like a good place to start.
You may now return to your regulary scheduled CIA programming.
by bayotanzk » Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:02 pm
floppy stated:
"Thats a pretty weak argument, because in your way of thinking, it would mean North America belonged to the Indian native people, long before the US came along."
and that may be a great argument and pehaps yes. American indians do not own the land, but today enjoy many rights, tax exempt casino/gambling profits, they only answer to our federal government on many issues and gov't programs that are not available to others. Some of these tribes earn as much as $60,000.00 dollars a year per person without working, from gambling monies! Some of the land, one must remember, was bought from the indians and other land from france. Louisiana Purchase. Other land was taken fron mexico.
But my point was that there was land set aside for both the jews and arabs in Palestine. This land was lost because all the surrounding arab states refused to recognize the state of Israel and attacked. What land was not taken in the war by Israel, was taken by other arab countries! Though in the next war, that also was taken by Israel.
Point- show me where there were palestinians ( a palestinian people) prior to the forming of a state of Israel. Arafat was born in Egypt.
The arab states like to have this constant war take place. Land was given to the palestinians by Israel. This did not stop anything. Arafat has become quite a wealthy man fighting the Jews. Wonder who is supporting his terrorist network? Not these nice fellows in iraq perhaps?!?
"Thats a pretty weak argument, because in your way of thinking, it would mean North America belonged to the Indian native people, long before the US came along."
and that may be a great argument and pehaps yes. American indians do not own the land, but today enjoy many rights, tax exempt casino/gambling profits, they only answer to our federal government on many issues and gov't programs that are not available to others. Some of these tribes earn as much as $60,000.00 dollars a year per person without working, from gambling monies! Some of the land, one must remember, was bought from the indians and other land from france. Louisiana Purchase. Other land was taken fron mexico.
But my point was that there was land set aside for both the jews and arabs in Palestine. This land was lost because all the surrounding arab states refused to recognize the state of Israel and attacked. What land was not taken in the war by Israel, was taken by other arab countries! Though in the next war, that also was taken by Israel.
Point- show me where there were palestinians ( a palestinian people) prior to the forming of a state of Israel. Arafat was born in Egypt.
The arab states like to have this constant war take place. Land was given to the palestinians by Israel. This did not stop anything. Arafat has become quite a wealthy man fighting the Jews. Wonder who is supporting his terrorist network? Not these nice fellows in iraq perhaps?!?
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by BloodBudda » Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:25 pm
And on the Israel/Palestine situation.
The land used to create Israel was under control by Egypt and Jordan. The Isreali state was forced upon these people. The Arabs didn't want it, but they didn't have a choice.
The Palestinians are constantly being forced off the land by settlers from Israel. Do they not also have the right to exist?
This land has been the hotbead for countless agressions upon the Arab world, think crusades. Israel is desired by the Jesuits and Knights Templar and has been for hundreds of years. The Arabs see this as their land now.
Besides, who is the terrorist? When I see pictures of the Israelis "defending themselves" from attacks from the Palestinian people, what do I see?
I see Palestinians using rocks and sticks. With the occasional suicide bomber, which kind of defeates a purpose, but hey, when you have nothing for which to defend yourself, you become the weapon.
I see Israel using American made tanks, American made Apache Helicopters, and American made weaponry to "defend" themselves from sticks and stones.
Wow, those must be magical sticks and stones, bought from the same guy who sold Jack his beanstalk beans.
I can see why we think of Arafat as a huge terrorist. How dare he retaliate with sticks and stones, those weapons of mass destruction should be outlawed. He and his people should just bend over a take it.
You may now return to your regulary scheduled CIA programming.
The land used to create Israel was under control by Egypt and Jordan. The Isreali state was forced upon these people. The Arabs didn't want it, but they didn't have a choice.
The Palestinians are constantly being forced off the land by settlers from Israel. Do they not also have the right to exist?
This land has been the hotbead for countless agressions upon the Arab world, think crusades. Israel is desired by the Jesuits and Knights Templar and has been for hundreds of years. The Arabs see this as their land now.
Besides, who is the terrorist? When I see pictures of the Israelis "defending themselves" from attacks from the Palestinian people, what do I see?
I see Palestinians using rocks and sticks. With the occasional suicide bomber, which kind of defeates a purpose, but hey, when you have nothing for which to defend yourself, you become the weapon.
I see Israel using American made tanks, American made Apache Helicopters, and American made weaponry to "defend" themselves from sticks and stones.
Wow, those must be magical sticks and stones, bought from the same guy who sold Jack his beanstalk beans.
I can see why we think of Arafat as a huge terrorist. How dare he retaliate with sticks and stones, those weapons of mass destruction should be outlawed. He and his people should just bend over a take it.
You may now return to your regulary scheduled CIA programming.
by bayotanzk » Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:47 pm
So floppy, If any arab state really wanted peace, why would they have taken territory promised to other arabs? Arafat and his bunch of rock throwing buddies would have there own state/country.
On another note. They seem to do a much better job with rocks than the Israelies do with there attack helicopters, when you see all those killed by explosive stones riding in buses. That is a real class act you are defending.
On another note. They seem to do a much better job with rocks than the Israelies do with there attack helicopters, when you see all those killed by explosive stones riding in buses. That is a real class act you are defending.
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by bayotanzk » Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:52 pm
Oh about the arms statement you made, Arafat is worth 200 million. If the russians sold iraq outlawed technology when there were a quater of a million troops south of iraq, what would make you think that the PLO is not well armed. Israel gave their police force small arms to be an effective police force without them having to buy any weapons in of itself.
Just maybe the type of war they fight is waged better with explosive stones than guns.
Just maybe the type of war they fight is waged better with explosive stones than guns.
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