Serb

by **Col_frosty** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:37 am

One thing to keep in mind is that I have actually defended numerous players against claims of hacking. One of them being Hollywood just today. He's a good player and is NOT hacking, imo.

People ignore all that, tho.

by **SavageParrot** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:56 am

75 percent eh. Shall we make a list of people you have a accused and check that or shall we just save the effort and call bs right now...

by **Killer Mike** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:08 am

[quote]Originally posted by Col_frosty
One of the things that pissed me off so much was one of my clanmates I was forced to toss out pledged to me that he wasn't hacking. That's one of the main reasons I hate hackers. He made me a total jackass since I defended him originally. His name was spYdr|Tracy. Do a search.

So you're little experience you had with one of your own clanmates makes you qualified to know who hacks and doesn't? It looks like you had to eat your own words when you were wrong about backing someone up. That's good that it makes you against hackers or whatever, but still, it doesn't make you qualified to know what is a hack and what isn't.

And nice try saying you've never accused me of wallhacks.

by **Radram** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:14 pm

this is a secret film , i found......

Mikee Jacked

by **SavageParrot** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:27 pm

lmao nice

by **Slaughter2** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:44 pm

omfg lol rad...still funny after all these years.....even tho you are a sell out et fan

RTCW keeping it alive for 6 years

by **Col_frosty** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:38 am

Originally posted by SavageParrot
75 percent eh. Shall we make a list of people you have a accused and check that or shall we just save the effort and call bs right now...

Better yet, I'll make a list of the players I have accused that wouldn't be in that list as of yet.

Eric...who doesn't appear to hack anymore...or play anymore

Smudge...who you can tell hacks when he has the cunning ability to see you around the corner. He only turns the walls off on occasions though. You can tell, because one minute he completely sucks ass, and the next you can't kill him quick enough when meeting him around the corner.

twitch....not even worth touching on. Unless you want me too again.

Now cyborg...nothing to add on that.

You name the people you have banned recently and I have accused most of them of hacking.

by **Twitch** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:38 am

i accuse frosty of hacking. im 100 percent sure he hacks so sombody kick him. 90 percent of the people i have accused of hacking have been caught so that makes my word better than his. so sombody please ban him. he constantly turns his hacks on and off depending on if there are admins on the server at the time. again, 9/10 people i have accused have been guilty so i must be right in this accusation.

by **SavageParrot** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:03 am

Originally posted by Col_frosty
Smudge...who you can tell hacks when he has the cunning ability to see you around the corner. He only turns the walls off on occasions though. You can tell, because one minute he completely sucks ass, and the next you can't kill him quick enough when meeting him around the corner.

Now you are just embarrassing yourself. Smudge hacks? I mean why stop there why not accuse fastshot or one of the other players I wipe the floor with as well. Why not accuse Man-at-arms himself it'd be about as credible.

Originally posted by Col_frosty
You name the people you have banned recently and I have accused most of them of hacking.

Yeah but how many of them were banned for hacking? None that's how many. Invariably they were banned for being ungrateful turds and biting the hand that was holding the sword that was defending them from idiots like you that thinks everyone hacks.

So here I'll make a deal with you. Next time I'm aliased and youa accuse me, how about I just ban you instead of laughing. Sound good to you?

I'm tired of this shit now. If you can't provide proof then expect to get muted for calling people hackers. If you reconnect to talk some more shit expect to get kicked or banned. I have had enough of peoples games being ruined by whiny little babies who can't take their deaths in a GAME but who feel the need to make things shit for other people based on no evidence and practically no experience.

This goes for everyone. If you can't prove it then don't fling the accusation. If you seriously think a player hacks feel free to take a demo in silence or pm an admin and ask them to check into it. Globally spamming about hacks is just retarded. Even if the player was hacking he'd turn it off becuase he knew he was likely to be being watched. It is not acceptable to make players lives miserable just because you can't deal with getting beaten.

We all hate hackers but just because you think a player hacks doesn't make it so. Proof is the ultimate monkey...

by **Radram** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:10 am

wowsers seems like some guidelines would be in order. most server wont allow accusations without a demo, and even still the demo has to be reviewed before they can fly. im suprised that this community has not structured this before.

For Example, here are the old RS admin guidlines:

Server Admin Information and Guidelines

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Admin Guidelines (admin key points to know/remember):
Admins exist to promote fair play, keep the servers clean, and "deal with" the 5% of players that ruin the game for the other 95%.
Admins need to be mature players and mature people. Having power and authority over others is a special privilege, and one that has been taken for granted far too often here.
Admins represent others: our community, other admins, and our clan. This shouldn't be taken lightly.
Players will not normally be promoted to admin status without "rising up through the ranks". This means that you need to put in your time before becoming an admin (Level 2 and up). Furthermore, it will normally take some time for this to happen. How long depends on many factors, such as maturity level, experience with the game, etc.
Admins will be promoted based on decisions by the council. This means that you SHOULD NOT ask to become an admin. Doing so makes us immediately suspicious that you'd rather be in control over others than simply playing the game yourself. That is ABSOLUTELY NOT the kind of person we want to be an admin here. If we think you'd be a good admin, we'll approach you. In other words, "don't call us, we'll call you".
The ideal admin on our server is someone who is level-headed, experienced, has been around our server for MANY MONTHS (not days or weeks), and is more interested in keeping the server clean and polite and fair than having increasing control over others that play here.
Admin Levels:
The various admin levels on our servers are as follows:

Level 1: Donor (protected)
Level 2: Mall Cop (warn, mute, kick)
Level 3: |RS| Junior Member (temp ban)
Level 4: |RS| Senior Member (temp ban, special privs)
Level 5: |RS| Council Member (ban, special privs)
Level 6: Server Admin (full admin)
Notes About Admin Levels:
Level 2 is our "main public" admin level. Most non-member admins on the server will fall under this category.
Level 3 and above is reserved for members and highly responsible folks that are hand-selected for special admin duties by the council. Most admins should NOT expect to attain this level, and it is normally not needed.
Level 2 is a very powerful level of semi-admin on our server. Having this level gives you such abilities as protection from vote muting and kicking, switching teams at any time regardless of balance, protection from being kicked when idle, the ability to bypass voting restrictions, and on and on. If your Level 2 status is not treated seriously, your position at this level will be revoked. This means that Level 2 players should consider themselves a semi-admin and act accordingly: assist others, play fair, help the other admins, be polite, go spec when going AFK, etc. You have been warned.
All "!kick" and "!ban" commands by our admins must be accompanied by a reason/message or they will not work. For example, your kick command should take the form of: !kick someuser TK'ing other players
All of these commands are logged and we review them regularly.
Level 2 does NOT have the ability to ban. Only Level 3 admins and higher have ban capability. Banning users is an extreme privilege that is sometimes taken too lightly on our servers. It is our position that simply kicking users is powerful enough in most cases, which is why this is the only such ability at our "main" admin level (Level 2).
Regulars must keep their established name to keep their admin level. Regulars found aliasing will be set to level 0.
Any admin kick or ban must be done while that admin has their tags on (if an |RS| member) and is using their established name (if non |RS| member).
Admins permitted to use the !spec999 command should do so sparingly as it can disrupt teams. Wait about a minute after a new map loads to use it in order to give the fast downloaders a chance.
No admin may kick or ban a player without stating the reasoning first on Teamspeak. If there are higher level admins on Teamspeak at the time the final decision to ban must be reviewed with the higher level admins.
When Level 3 or higher admins are on the server, lower level admins MUST DEFER TO THEIR JUDGMENT for making a decision about a suspected cheater. This means when suspected cheating is concerned that a Level 2 admin should NOT be kicking a player when a Level 3 admin is present. The Level 3 admin may choose to ban the user outright, which cannot be done if a Level 2 simply kicks them. Rather, the Level 2 player should ask the higher admin for assistance. Respect the chain of command present on the server at any given time.

and these are the Player Rules:

Server Rules

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General Rules for playing on |RS|Blitzkrieg
Playing on |RS|Blitzkrieg is a privilege, not a right, and one that may be revoked at any time. What follows are the rules for our server, the code of conduct that all players are expected to adhere to. Ignorance of these rules is no defense for violating them.

Our number one rule: Respect the authority of the admin staff, and abide by their decisions. Admins are here to ensure a fair and enjoyable game for everyone involved. Occasionally this involves making a judgment call, and we're only human. If you have reason to dispute any admin decision, please take your complaint to the forums rather than disrupting the game. We also accept positive feedback about your gaming experience. =)

Above all, have fun and promote the enjoyment of the game for all players. If you're not enjoying yourself, why are you playing the game?

BASIC SERVER RULES
Spawn-killing/spawn-camping is part of the game and is allowed. There are no "safe zones". Defense of the spawn areas is an important consideration for both teams. Keep in mind that you have momentary invulnerability after spawning -- use this time to secure the area.
In general exploiting map bugs is illegal. However, firing a rifle grenade through the backdoor in Battery is allowed.
Clan-stacking is not allowed, even by |RS| Clan Members. Clan players are welcome on our server. However, please note that our server is a "pub" (a public server) and is therefore subject to some different rules than clan servers with which you may be familiar.
No clan stacking: Clan stacking is when more than 3 clan players are on the same team. Three on one team is the maximum allowed. Any others have to join the opposing team.
Play with your whole team: Don't exclude other non-clan team members. Play as a team!
Recruiting is not allowed.
Advertising is not allowed.
While we do have an international community, please keep global and team messages in English. If you want to use other languages, please do so through private messages.

IT SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING...
No use of our server for activities illegal in the server's home country (USA) or yours will be tolerated. This includes posting links to illegal material such as cracked software or pornography.

Furthermore, keep the language clean. Swearing is rude, not necessary, and therefore not tolerated on our servers. Keep things clean -- we won't settle for anything less.

RESPECT YOUR FELLOW GAMERS
Disrespect of the admin staff will get you banned quickly. Instructions given by a server admin are to be obeyed. Take complaints to our forums. Do not further disrupt the game by arguing.
No verbal harassment of other players will be tolerated. Friendly joking is fine to a point but do not cross the line.
No racial/sexual/religious/nationality slurs! Respect the fact that we support a diverse and international gaming community.
Excessive whining will get you muted or worse.
No political discussion or names. You can name yourself after a political person (with some exceptions), but no political messages in your name.

DON'T HURT YOUR TEAM - PLAY TO WIN
Play to help your team win the game. By occupying a team slot you are part of the overall balance of team power. You will be kicked for idling or for wandering aimlessly.
No aiding the enemy in any fashion, such as letting the enemy through team doors. Play to win or get off our server.
No defusing well-placed team mines, to re-plant them for engineer XP.
No defusing team dynamite, to re-plant for engineer XP.
No holding the objective in order to prevent your team from capturing it.
No suiciding into mines to get an engineer teammate kicked for team damage.
No suiciding into mortars or panzers to get a soldier teammate kicked for team damage.
No shoving covert ops teammates off kills to steal the uniform. Whoever killed the enemy has first call on the uniform.
If you get bled by a teammate or TK-ed do NOT take revenge.

NO SPAMMING
No spamming of voice or text messages. This will get you muted (or worse) in a hurry.
No vote spamming (repeatedly calling votes that fail). Voting is disabled on this server.

DON'T BE AN IDIOT
No intentional team-killing (TK) is allowed with one sole exception: TK-reviving by a "qualified" medic is allowed.
The above rule includes the time at the end of each map! Don't TK in the last few seconds of the round when you think no one is looking! An almost certain ban will be forthcoming.
No multiple unintentional team-killing, either. Our server is fairly conservative in this regard. It will kick or temp-ban you if you reach a certain team-damage threshold.
No team bleeding (intentionally injuring teammates). Including no shoving teammates off cliffs or roofs just because it’s fun or they are in your way.
PLAY WITH HONOR AND INTEGRITY
No cheating whatsoever! (Aimbots, Wall-hacks, etc.) Anyone found guilty of cheating will be banned for all eternity. You have been warned.
No impersonation of other players.
No impersonation of any clan's membership (e.g. by wrongly displaying their tag, etc.).
No impersonation of a server admin, by name or by deed.
No spec'ing for the purpose of spying for a team. Remember, many of our admins have enough privileges to see all chat traffic amongst all teams and players. Also, all activities are logged.
No team changing for the purpose of gaining unfair game advantage (spying, locating mines, checking enemy class distribution, etc.)
No abuse of any map bugs.
No abuse of any game bugs, especially anything that results in server instability. We will have no mercy on anyone guilty of compromising the availability of our server.
No intentional blocking, especially with respect to spawn exits.

IF YOU SHOW UP, PLAY THE GAME
You will be placed on the spectator team when idle, or kicked when the server is near capacity.
You will be kicked for spec'ing for long periods of time or when the server is near capacity.
You will be kicked or temporarily banned for a high ping. This may seem harsh but is necessary in order to ensure a fair game for all players. A high ping is generally defined as 400 ms or above.

BANNED?
If you have been temporarily banned, the ban will automatically expire after a set amount of time. If you have been permanently banned, your only recourse is to visit our forums and state your case. Remember, YOU are responsible for any activity using your account, regardless of the human behind the controls. This applies to your GUID (the ID code assigned to you by the game) as well as your IP address range. Take responsibility for your actions, learn from your mistakes, and change your play for the better.

In closing let's touch on a few relevant topics:
If you regularly play on our servers, please register with our Web portal (this site) at http://www.riders-storm.com We really do listen to all suggestions we receive, and it's a great place to shoot the breeze with the local gaming population.
If multiple gamers share your computer, you are strongly encouraged to set up a separate install/profile for each person. Many unban requests begin with "my brother/cousin/neighbor/pet was really the person playing at the time..." which, incidentally, never works.
Never take justice into your own hands! A retaliatory TK is just as much an offense as any other TK, and will get you just as banned. If you are having trouble with a player, private message an admin by pressing ~ to bring down the console and typing "/m adminname messagetext". If there is no admin online, please report the behavior on the |RS| forums.
If you have a suspicion that someone is using a hack do not tell it on the main chat. Message one of the admins that are on.
And remember, the whole point is to have fun!

Have a Nice Day!!!

by **ShipWreck** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:26 am

Most of the ideals have been thrown out the window I think. I pop in everyone in awhile. The last time I was there. Players were being Flinged for taking the flag. I will not downgrade myself and bash other people. But this shouldn't have happened imo. The server has steadly declined over the years because of better games with better graphics. But some reason I think it is that players just don't want to play there anymore. To each his own I say and please don't take this personal.

by **Namloot** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:26 pm

Ship!

by **Col_frosty** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:37 am

Originally posted by SavageParrot
Now you are just embarrassing yourself. Smudge hacks?

He has in the past, Yes. I'm not quite sure what part of that you don't understand. Lemme know if you need some help in the understanding department.

Originally posted by SavageParrot

I mean why stop there why not accuse fastshot or one of the other players I wipe the floor with as well. Why not accuse Man-at-arms himself it'd be about as credible.

I only accuse those that appear to be hacking. If you want to accuse MAA, go right ahead. That's your business.

Originally posted by SavageParrot

Yeah but how many of them were banned for hacking? None that's how many. Invariably they were banned for being ungrateful turds and biting the hand that was holding the sword that was defending them

Originally posted by SavageParrot

from idiots like you

Seriously, man, grow up. What are you, twelve?

Originally posted by SavageParrot

that thinks everyone hacks.

There are about 50 people I play with on any given day. I might accuse on of them of hacking, at most.

That comment is a hack(no pun intended).

Originally posted by SavageParrot

So here I'll make a deal with you. Next time I'm aliased and youa accuse me, how about I just ban you instead of laughing. Sound good to you?

You suck. I would never accuse you of hacking in the first place.

Originally posted by SavageParrot

I'm tired of this shit now. If you can't provide proof then reconnect to talk some more shit expect to get kicked or banned. I have had enough of peoples games being ruined by whiny little babies who can't take their deaths in a GAME expect to get muted for calling people hackers. If you but who feel the need to make things shit for other people based on no evidence and practically no experience.

Bullfuckingshit. More and more people are getting caught hacking every day. Unfortunately, not everyone follows crosshairs through walls so you're not gonna find every tom, dick, and harry that's hacking. There are limitations on what the human mind and brain can do. Once you realize that, you realize what's possible in this game and what's impossible without a bot, program, or see-through-wall.

Maybe at some point, you'll open up your eyes, and wake the fuck up.

Originally posted by SavageParrot

This goes for everyone. If you can't prove it then don't fling the accusation. If you seriously think a player hacks feel free to take a demo in silence or pm an admin and ask them to check into it. Globally spamming about hacks is just retarded. Even if the player was hacking he'd turn it off becuase he knew he was likely to be being watched. It is not acceptable to make players lives miserable just because you can't deal with getting beaten.

We all hate hackers but just because you think a player hacks doesn't make it so. Proof is the ultimate monkey...

Nobody, including me, that respect those that play without hacks care if they get raged.

thanks for playing

by **Col_frosty** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:39 am

Originally posted by Twitch
i accuse frosty of hacking. im 100 percent sure he hacks so sombody kick him. 90 percent of the people i have accused of hacking have been caught so that makes my word better than his. so sombody please ban him. he constantly turns his hacks on and off depending on if there are admins on the server at the time. again, 9/10 people i have accused have been guilty so i must be right in this accusation.

Those that hack and get accused of hacking are the first to say that the accuser is hacking as well, to make a of joke of the accusation, thereby taking some of the heat off of themselves in the process.

psych-hackology 101

by **SavageParrot** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:44 am

Originally posted by Col_frosty
Unfortunately, not everyone follows crosshairs through walls so you're not gonna find every tom, dick, and harry that's hacking.

Wow ok so maybe we should start banning everyone who shows no signs of hacking because clearly the lack of evidence is as compelling proof that they hack as anything real.

If they don't show any signs of hacking on pb sreenshots or after extensive demoing then as far as we are concerned they don't hack. Sure it's possible that we could be wrong, I'm not that arrogant. But we are not going to ban someone on the 5 percent chance that, in the dozens of demos we have been subjected to of these players, we may have missed the 1 second lapse of concentration when the supposed hacker let his guard down and showed a sign of hacking. It's possible, just like it's possible that you could cram your head an inch further up your own ass but I wouldn't recommend you try.

You are right that we are not going to catch every little private hack or every careful botter. When, however, you have watched close to 10 hours of demos on the same guy and still haven't turned anything up I think it's pretty much as sure as you can be that they don't hack.

Anyway this is beside the point because we are not stopping people from looking out for hackers just from making accusations in a certain way: You can think whoever you want to think hacks, you can take demos and send them to the admins, you can pm your friends about it.

What you cannot do any more is globally (or publicly in team chat) whine about it and drag people's names through the mud without proof, spam votes to get them kicked or tk them to make them leave. If I witness that or get screenshots of it and you or whoever it is can expect to get !mute/kick/banned.

Serb

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