ATI X800Pro released today....

Off topic, but don't go too far overboard - after all, we are watching...heh.
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ATI X800Pro released today....

Postby Bullhead » Wed May 05, 2004 12:42 pm

Lotsa reviews out there, here are the ones from my fav. websites:

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjEx
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2044
http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q2/radeon-x800/index.x?pg=1

Also, hardocp has a good read (very tech) on the nitty gritty behind the new ATI cards.... http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjEw

For the lazy, a summary would be this: ATI still has better Image Quality at the moment, using current drivers/directx, and both ati and nvida perform very similarly (that is, the eat current gen games alive). The ATI cards could run higher resolutions and/or higher AA/AF than the nvida cards in some of the more stressful games (FarCry, UT2004, etc), but nvidia tended to do better in OpenGL games.

The key here is that new stuff is coming in the way of drivers for both (nvida's need alot of work), and new version of DirectX (which opens up new features on the Nvida cards which ATI does not support), and new patches to support these new features (specifially, FarCry will get a patch once the new DX comes out, and Nvida cards will get a HUGE perf. boost as a result).

It's gonna be a fun summer :D

CrazyBri

Postby CrazyBri » Wed May 05, 2004 12:51 pm

Bullhead I know you're going to cave and order this card today. :)

Xenius

Postby Xenius » Wed May 05, 2004 1:13 pm

Looks nice. ATI surprised NVIDIA with their uber card it seems.

The big thing of interest to me is that ATI's card is usually just as good or better, and it doesn't require 2 slots, or 2 power connectors.

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Postby shockwave203 » Wed May 05, 2004 1:28 pm

X800XT PE is faster in games such as farcry, which is what future gaming will be like. Nvidia has a leg up in call of duty, but if you're going to be buying one of these super expensive cards to play that game, there is something wrong with you.

Have you guys downloaded the Ruby demo off of ATI's site? it looks amazing, and it's real time too. that's how the card actually looks!

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Postby JimmyTango » Wed May 05, 2004 1:36 pm

To me the biggest news is Gabe from Valve stated HL2 runs 40% faster on the new ATI cards than it does on the new Nvidia cards.

PS3.0? Wow, there will be a total of maybe 5 games by the time the next generation of cards comes out that feature PS4.0 Super Ultra XT.

Bullhead

Postby Bullhead » Wed May 05, 2004 1:49 pm

Originally posted by CrazyBri
Bullhead I know you're going to cave and order this card today. :)


Negative. I have this odd feeling that my 9800pro is going to get "sick", and I'll have to take it back to my old Best Buy to have it replaced under warr. for a x800pro. What a shame. :D :roll: :P

Bullhead

Postby Bullhead » Wed May 05, 2004 1:52 pm

Originally posted by shockwave203
X800XT PE is faster in games such as farcry, which is what future gaming will be like.


Keep in mind though, that Far Cry will support PS3.0 when dx9.0c releases. While the image quality will not be any better(probably), the performance will be MUCH better on nvida than ATI (unless they can get some slick driver optim. out by then). Remember, PS3.0 is more about flexibilty and performance than image quality.

Now, in future games like HL2, Doom3, etc. that don't support PS3.0, the ATI's will probably continue to shine.....

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Postby shockwave203 » Wed May 05, 2004 1:53 pm

Originally posted by Bullhead
Negative. I have this odd feeling that my 9800pro is going to get "sick", and I'll have to take it back to my old Best Buy to have it replaced under warr. for a x800pro. What a shame. :D :roll: :P


sneaky sneaky sneaky! but then they may just replace it with another 9800 pro because there are still plenty of them around...maybe you should wait a while to do it?

Originally posted by JimmyTango
To me the biggest news is Gabe from Valve stated HL2 runs 40% faster on the new ATI cards than it does on the new Nvidia cards.

PS3.0? Wow, there will be a total of maybe 5 games by the time the next generation of cards comes out that feature PS4.0 Super Ultra XT.


40%? wowzers.

and this PS3.0 is hyped up way too much. games are barely even using 2.0 yet. when 3.0 becomes widely used in a few years, the next generation of cards will be out. and even if 3.0 is included in games earlier, I still haven't seen any screenshots showing the differences between the two. in the Nvidia presentation they shoed a DX7 shot with no eye candy, and then the next shot was PS 3.0 which looked a hell of a lot like 2.0

Bullhead

Postby Bullhead » Wed May 05, 2004 2:20 pm

Originally posted by shockwave203
sneaky sneaky sneaky! but then they may just replace it with another 9800 pro because there are still plenty of them around...maybe you should wait a while to do it?


Hence the reason I go back to the BBY I used to work at. Inside connections, ya know? :D

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Postby shockwave203 » Wed May 05, 2004 2:40 pm

Originally posted by Bullhead
Hence the reason I go back to the BBY I used to work at. Inside connections, ya know? :D


haha, nice one ;)

I probably won't upgrade for a LONG time. I finally got rid of my POS K-car and am buying an integra, so money for my computer will be stretched. good thing I got the 9800pro on sale when I did :D

Murgatroyd

Postby Murgatroyd » Wed May 05, 2004 2:44 pm

Originally posted by shockwave203
haha, nice one ;)

I probably won't upgrade for a LONG time. I finally got rid of my POS K-car and am buying an integra, so money for my computer will be stretched. good thing I got the 9800pro on sale when I did :D


Dude, K-cars are the best. You're gonna be kicking yourself for it, I still am.. ;)

Anyway, donations are currently being accepted for Murgatroyd's Radeon X800... err.. I mean "Save the Children" fund. I accept paypal.

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Postby shockwave203 » Wed May 05, 2004 2:50 pm

Originally posted by Murgatroyd
Dude, K-cars are the best. You're gonna be kicking yourself for it, I still am.. ;)


ah, not really. it stalled on the way to one of my final exams, and now that our mechanic finally got it going, it's making huge clunking sounds.

I already put 3 transmissions in that damn thing. I want to push it off a cliff

Murgatroyd

Postby Murgatroyd » Wed May 05, 2004 2:59 pm

Originally posted by shockwave203
ah, not really. it stalled on the way to one of my final exams, and now that our mechanic finally got it going, it's making huge clunking sounds.

I already put 3 transmissions in that damn thing. I want to push it off a cliff


What kind of car is it? I had a Dodge Aries and that thing was bulletproof. Drove it something like 40,000 miles without an oil change, and it didn't so much as sputter.

Colonel Savage

Postby Colonel Savage » Wed May 05, 2004 3:09 pm

Well, this should drive the price down on the 9800 pros, and then those of us who are more 'financially challenged' will be able to continue our long-standing trend of staying slightly behind the current edge of technology...

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Postby WDPsellout » Wed May 05, 2004 3:30 pm

Originally posted by Colonel Savage
Well, this should drive the price down on the 9800 pros, and then those of us who are more 'financially challenged' will be able to continue our long-standing trend of staying slightly behind the current edge of technology...


Amen :violin:
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